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GuyFlawles t1_j5k9u2a wrote

Personally, when somebody says founder, I take it to mean 'somebody who founded something.' By this definition, Musk is not a founder. Just because he managed to wrangle himself the title doesn't change the reality


NintendogsWithGuns t1_j5kcc34 wrote

I agree with that statement. I’m just saying he managed to claim that title for himself, which explains why he’s often introduced as such and thus ends up on lists like this


Spacey42069 t1_j5kf1sr wrote

When those two blokes started Tesla, all they had was a name. It wanst even a company.

They weren't even registered. He got a headquarters for them. Elon was there when the first car was built. He put half of his money he got from paypal and built it from scratch.

If that doesn't makes you a founder idk what will.


PedanticMath t1_j5kojwq wrote

So is every initial investor a founder? I think the disconnect is between the definitions of the guys who dreamed it up, and the guy who took a chance and bankrolled it.


Sweaty_Chair_4600 t1_j5kwxy9 wrote

In physics, sometimes a person who makes an accidental discovery gets a Nobel but the person who came up with the theory before the accident doesn't.


PedanticMath t1_j5l7wl3 wrote

I’m not sure how the Nobel committee compares to how you define the roll of investment capital in this context. I was highlighting that a personal belief in the value of that role often determines how you frame it.


Spacey42069 t1_j5ktsre wrote

just dreaming it doesnt make you a founder. those arent the definitions of founder.

redditors should learn to see the reasoning behind their Elon hate boner


cippopotomas t1_j5l8srx wrote

>a person who establishes an institution or settlement.

It's actually the literal fucking definition haha. Maybe you should learn to see the reasoning beyond your Elon love boner.