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SplodyPants t1_jaegybt wrote

That's actually 2 different questions: Why hasn't anybody charged less?

They have. Little ma and pop cafes charge less for more and do pretty good against Starbucks in their little areas.

Why hasn't anyone taken market share?

Because of overhead which dictates cost as much or more than materials cost. And because it takes a huge amount of up front cost to start a chain. A company would have to offset the startup costs by charging more for coffee and their advantage would.be lost.

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Exact-Glove-5026 t1_jaeho3w wrote

Plus if they moved beyond mom and pop status and somehow kept their costs dramatically low, there's always a bigger company willing to buy them out to protect their spot.

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elsuakned t1_jaemtv5 wrote

Maybe mom and pop shops can beat them when it comes to black coffee, but I can think of one small place I've ever been to where anything beyond that saves money, it's usually the opposite. Those lattes and shit are not cheap even when the big places can buy the actually valuable ingredients at high scales. And I'm pretty sure that one place that competed was campus subsidized. It was also not good coffee.

Iirc the local place I went to back when I lived nearby sold black coffee at about 70 cents cheaper for a large cup, and being the local place with maybe three employees ever on at a time in a liberal neighborhood, was absolutely packed during any rush time. That 70 cents isn't going to kill Dunkin, their convenience, familiarity, app preorders, bigger menu, often ideal locations for being on the go, etc. I believe the local place near me now is more expensive than dunkin, so it's not even assured that local places can even try that.

There's a demographic of people who want a local place that is cheap and familiar to them, but there's a much, much larger one that wants the convenience of a chain, or if not that a place that specializes in gourmet coffee like a roaster, which also isn't going to be cheap. And if people are super money conscious, they'll make coffee at home, or gas station coffee on the go, which isn't all awful. A coffee place at a cheaper price point than what's out there right now doesn't seem very viable at all.

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SpaceAngel2001 t1_jaez3mt wrote

Great point. McDs doesn't sell the most burgers by having the best burger, they do it by having a convenient known item that is reliably standard across the country.

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