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Calldean t1_j95j5xs wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in eli5: Why are Chinese products so inexpensive? by Agile-Bench-9386

> boarding on racist

What? How?! This is about politics not race.

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Blautopf t1_j95kjyy wrote

It is not based on politics but on ignorant assumptions, which is why it is boarding on racism.

Yes, they do not have as free a political state as many Western countries, but they are not owned by anyone.

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luvchicago t1_j96m7tj wrote

You may want to ask the Uyghurs about that.

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Blautopf t1_j96scd0 wrote

I did not say they had a good human rights record.

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luvchicago t1_j97264i wrote

You don’t think there is any slave labor occurring?

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Blautopf t1_j97p5f6 wrote

Debatable point: What occurs in Prison Labour camps in many doctatorships, certainly forced Labour, but slavery implies more the degradation of a human into a commodity.

After all, it is allowed even in the US for prisoners to be forced or at least coerced into work. So there is a very fine line between prisoners as labour, forced labour, and Slavery but a line exists between each step.

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luvchicago t1_j97wnju wrote

I am not sure that I see forced labor as a better situation than slavery, but if it makes you feel good….

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kuronek_o t1_j95m4st wrote

chinese people are overwhelmingly positive about their govt, without this balance, their govt wouldnt exist. they already went through a revolution and are now experiencing the fruits of that revolution and handling of the country by the govt. to imply the people are owned by the state diminishes these facts that the govt wouldnt exist without the people. its pushing stereotypes that the chinese people are mindless and have no choice. these circumstances that have given them access to a booming middle class and better living standards than a lot of other countries. none of this happened by mistake, it took a century of hard work by the people. assuming things like this prove people have no idea how the country works which is built on centuries of anti-asian rhetoric, you don't have to go that far back to find chinese exclusion acts etc pushed by govt's banning chinese people from their countries (america)

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ostentatioushuman t1_j95zqcv wrote

>chinese people are overwhelmingly positive about their govt

There is growing discontent in the last few years. Economy and standard of living is not keeping up with expectation and the draconian measures to control covid has brought up comparisons to the cultural revolution times.

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kuronek_o t1_j961sxm wrote

this just isn't entirely true, you're only being fed negatives of china, hyper inflated under the microscope of scrutiny. while the people do protest in china, the govt also listens. there's a reason they've kept it together for so long, no matter how much people wish it to fail. there is no comparison to the cultural revolution times, that's a ridiculous statement to make and completely ahistorical. the contradictions under those times were of a population boom and an industrial boom counteracted with widespread famines and other issues. the stability of china now isn't even comparable to the stability of it then.

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