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dariasniece t1_je3mqii wrote

Reply to comment by havereddit in ELI5: Everyone knows that Ticketmaster is the biggest scumbucket enterprise on the planet yet no band seems able to avoid their grasp. What's to stop a really major act (e.g. Taylor Swift) from performing in venues that are not controlled by Ticketmaster, or just setting up a parallel company? by havereddit

They could, but doing so would also cause a lot of headaches and lost revenue for them too. It's also worth pointing out that the last time there was a Woodstock, people died of heat stroke and rioted over a lack of bathrooms

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illbeyourdrunkle t1_je3o7o6 wrote

Also the people killed when the wind picked up the stage and crashed it into the crowd, or the people crushed in a crowd crush/stampede. Lots of examples lately.

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big_troublemaker t1_je428ns wrote

There some examples of accidents, but also thousands of festivals without any. Not to mention that similarly there's plenty of accidents in closed venues. Call me crazy but It's almost as if there was a general rule: large gathering of people, electricity, equipment, temporary structures equal heightened risk of accident.

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big_troublemaker t1_je421fk wrote

You surely are aware that there are hundreds of large scale open air music festivals happening every year all around the world which don't end with people dying of heat stroke or lack of facilities?

Woodstock was a shitshow in that respect because it was planned for 50k and 400k attended.

Nowadays there are festivals with over half a million attendees that happen on annual basis. I believe the tomorrowland comes close to 600 000 attendees.

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EnChilladada t1_je437d4 wrote

Yeah, and guess who the ticket partner for Tomorrowland is?

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TwinkForAHairyBear t1_je45akk wrote

I'd like to introduce you to Pol'and'rock Festival. No ticket, no master, no ticketmaster. Even though it's a huge event they manage to keep it free of charge and that's just unbelievably amazing.

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EvilBosch t1_je43yj6 wrote

>I believe the tomorrowland comes close to 600 000 attendees.

That sounds absolutely bloody awful.

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KrazzeeKane t1_je45oiy wrote

Good god the stench past the first day or two must be so horrifically strong you can practically see it, like that SpongeBob episode where he eats the nasty sandwich and gets the rancid breath

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big_troublemaker t1_je47kji wrote

Not sure why? Ever heard of showers, wcs, etc? I addmitedly attend smaller festivals (tens of thousands not hundreds) but they are just so plush... High quality food, great music, open air, people. And at night I go to sleep in my hotel to come back fresh and relaxed next morning.

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KrazzeeKane t1_je5us67 wrote

I'm talking about the big multi-day festivals, which this would qualify as since it is 600k+ people lol. And those get real stinky, real fast when you have hundreds of thousands of people who have been physically active and dancing all crowd together outside. You can physically feel it lol

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2CHINZZZ t1_je46nu5 wrote

And Ticketmaster runs a lot of those. ACL, the various Lollapaloozas, and some other festivals are produced by C3 Presents, which Live Nation, the parent company of Ticketmaster, owns a 51% stake in

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big_troublemaker t1_je478fy wrote

Sure, they obviously want to - there's money in festivals - but that's not the point, previous poster made it look as if there were no open air festivals due to poor organisation of one that has happened many decades ago.

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Jassida t1_je3zmil wrote

There have been lots of successful outdoor concerts since though

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