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TheBertinator3000 t1_je0oxao wrote

Lucky OP!

Today is the day that you get to learn about the fact that dietary supplements are not required to have any evidence to back up their claims. They're not regulated that way, like medicines are.

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Alexander_Elysia OP t1_je0pik1 wrote

Aha believe it or not, it's my dad, I'm just tryna save the guy some money, I had a feeling it was snake oil (hence my question), I just wanted to know if I was correct or not

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m4gpi t1_je0skaf wrote

It is still “extra protein” so if that’s something you think your dad could use, like if he has a crap diet, in that sense it’s a good thing. He could also take whey protein (which is cheaper, but some people have digestive issues with it), egg protein, pea protein… each of these has different qualities in terms of cost, slight flavor, digestibility, water-solubility, whether it can be cooked/baked, etc. Protein is important (especially in aging folks) so keeping the intake high is beneficial. The fact that it’s specifically collagen-derived, or whey, or egg, etc. is mostly irrelevant.

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zsg101 t1_je31m0m wrote

Collagen is both cheaper and healthier, if you buy it as pure gelatin powder.

Tastes gross, but has none of them artificial sweeteners that are necessary in huge quantities to make whey taste not gross.

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BoomZhakaLaka t1_je1dkw9 wrote

Wait you're going to tell me that all the money I spent on biotin tablets, didn't actually stimulate hair growth?

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WildFlemima t1_je1hdy5 wrote

That's right

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BoomZhakaLaka t1_je1hlds wrote

Should've /s thought it was too obvious

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WildFlemima t1_je1io35 wrote

No I got it was /s and upvoted you I just wanted to feel involved lol

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Fred2718 t1_je1uzqb wrote

Me too. Boom needs to keep us posted on his Health Journey.

Or else I will have a Sad.

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Vill13rs t1_je2gf7y wrote

I've worked in 2 natural/organic grocery stores over the span of 3+ years that emphasized supplement sales and I can confidently say that a solid 85-90% of it is all snake oil. Vitamins, minerals, protein powders, CDB oils, those are fine.

But when you have people asking you for shit like horny goat weed to help with their sexual dysfunction, you know they're easily scammed and unregulated supplement companies bank on that. Worst offender by far is the company Terry Naturally. Go out of their way to claim their products cure cancer and shit. Which does go against what are called DSHEA laws, the only thing really protecting consumers from being conned by statements like that, but they're so hard to enforce on employees in smaller stores. So the cycle continues and people think dropping a stack on whatever newest all natural, organic health craze are all the poorer for it.

But that's just my soapbox moment.

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corveroth t1_je3y90g wrote

It's worth saying that there are some herbal supplements with a demonstrated track record. For example, St John's Wort has seen use as an antidepressant, but it can also severely interfere with other medications. Ashwangadha has less consistent evidence, but may be useful for reducing anxiety in people with severe problems of that type.

https://www.nccih.nih.gov/health/st-johns-wort
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypericum_perforatum
https://examine.com/supplements/st-johns-wort/

https://www.nccih.nih.gov/health/ashwagandha
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Withania_somnifera
https://examine.com/supplements/ashwagandha/#examine-database

Note the caveats. They might be "natural", but they still naturally interact with the world around them, and nature contains many allergens and poisons. They might in fact work for someone, but we've yet to isolate which chemical components are responsible for those effects, let alone optimize their ratio or dosage. In that respect, CBD products are somewhat further along the path of science than either of these two herbs.

With all of that said, I do recommend sticking to solutions that have evolved beyond the supplements aisle. (And on a bit of a tangent, remember that homeopathy is bullshit.)

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