just_a_pyro t1_iuf4p0m wrote on October 30, 2022 at 9:15 PM

Tournament armor was heavier than battle armor, and they were using blunted weapons. It was a sort of sport, modern boxers can get a concussion too, they still do it for fame and money, and so did the knights.

swistak84 t1_iugcjge wrote on October 31, 2022 at 2:42 AM

Some tournament armours were so heavy there would be often two people helping the rider get onto a poor horse.

LeChatVert t1_iuh6so1 wrote on October 31, 2022 at 9:00 AM

That's a 19th century myth

swistak84 t1_iuhbgia wrote on October 31, 2022 at 10:09 AM

From wikipedia:

> The Stechzeug in particular developed into extremely heavy armour which completely inhibited the movement of the rider, in its latest forms resembling an armour-shaped cabin integrated into the horse armour more than a functional suit of armour

So yes, late period jousting armour was heavy an impractical for anything other then jousting. It was heavy and stiff enough that either they had to be put onto the horse with help, or had special sets of stairs which they would climb before getting on a horse.

Just to be sure - this is just for a late period jousting armours. Regular armours were not like that.

LeChatVert t1_iuhgd6g wrote on October 31, 2022 at 11:13 AM

Your first statement was too broad to be accurate. I tend to agree with the "impractical", yet it was specialized apparatus. As for the wiki quote, it doesn't prove the "set of stairs" and is only for a specific région and time.

swistak84 t1_iuhs65j wrote on October 31, 2022 at 1:09 PM

You claimed that's a myth when there are clear historical examples.

But I've added qualifier to my original statement to make it clear that not all of them were like that.