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greatvaluemeeseeks t1_j28b404 wrote

A small sticker is placed on or hidden inside high theft items. Older systems used a strip of metal that can be magnetized and demagnetized. The cashier swipes the tag across a special spot on the counter and it demagnetizes it; if they don't demagnetize it it sets off the alarm at the store's entrance when you walk past it.

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Pleasant_Broccoli451 OP t1_j28bayv wrote

Ok I understand that magnet part! That makes total sense but how about the normal products with a normal bar code printed on the packaging?

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DblDtchRddr t1_j28dgft wrote

Those products don't set off security alarms. You can literally stand there playing catch across a security door with a can of Red Bull, and it won't set off the alarm, unless the store has put a security tag on it.

(Don't actually do this. While you won't set off the alarm, retail establishments generally don't appreciate these kinds of shenanigans.)

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ACDrinnan t1_j28b0ve wrote

Not all items will do that but higher value items that are more likely to be stolen have barcodes with electronics on the back of them. When it's active, the detectors will beep when you lass through them. When you scan the item, it also deactivates the electronics and letd you walk through without sounding the alarm.

When I was younger I used to take the electronic barcodes off of items and try to land them in people's bags or their jacket hood so the alarm would go off when they leave.

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N0bb1 t1_j28b74h wrote

It will Beep. There is a small chip on it, a so called RFID Chip, which stores just a small amount of data, the state I was paid or I was not paid. When the product is scanned, the state on the chip is changed. When the state of a product is I was not paid, the System goes BEEP. Other possibility with the RFID Chips, they only have the state I was not paid and when scanned they get a small electric charge and are therefore destroyed. So the System only BEEPs, if there is a Signal, not which signal.

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gunny84 t1_j28b31h wrote

Do you mean from a self-service unmanned store or a regular supermarket or convenient store?

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Pleasant_Broccoli451 OP t1_j28b77j wrote

All of them I think. But mostly grocer ystores (regular counter or self check out)

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gunny84 t1_j28ct8t wrote

I'm from Singapore and I have not seen a store with sensor at the exit. Let's say that if I paid at a counter and I leave the item there after that the cashier would call for me. Similarly if I paid using a self serve checkout as there would be staff around.

Assuming that I'm at an unmanned store it would be monitored by cameras and AI. From those that I have seen on videos after paying I would need to exit the store. If I were to leave without my Redbull like you said and return to grab another I think the system would just take it that I am performing a new transaction and flag out that I'm leaving the store with an unpaid item.

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FriendEllie75 t1_j28czll wrote

A Red Bull isn’t going to make the security system alarm go off. They only put tags on bigger more commonly stolen items. Most of the time if there is someone manning the door they’ll just wave you through unless you have unbagged items in your cart or any big ticket items.

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DrDoomC17 t1_j28sscg wrote

RFID is of two (major) distinctions, active and passive. For most bar codes, it is passive. The laser hits it, it tells the reader the information encoded (there's details here that don't perfectly fit passive RFID always but they aren't important). This usually is to look up the object and price and after you pay the store uses that information for inventory management. The object does not know if it is sold by itself. For expensive things, the tag is active, and by this it means you don't have to hit it with a laser, it calls out when nearby a scanner eg the door. You could have passive ones read at the door and they are trying to figure that out but it is complicated to energize and read all the stuff in your cart accurately, not to mention very expensive today. Anyway, the active tag (or something behaving like active RFID) is removed or de-energized at checkout so it can't call out to/be detected by the machine and set off the alarm. A red bull tag won't do this, nor will 99% of most tags in most stores. Most tags are meant as a way to quickly identify and look up an item.

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