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harley9779 t1_j2cxfwn wrote

First of all, it's their, not there.

Contrary to some people's beliefs, declaring yourself independent from the US doesn't actually help you. Sovereign citizens, American nationals, and Moorish try this often.

US law still applies to all their citizens and to all non citizens within their jurisdiction.

Declaring yourself as an independent only opens you up to all laws from every nation everywhere. This really only becomes an issue on the high seas as that's the only real place that people are without a jurisdictional government.

Without a large following, declaring independence is futile.

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Blautopf t1_j2d824m wrote

Also without recognition from other countries prepared to work with you declare independence to your hearts content if it remains unrecognised it is useless. You need this recognition to set up many needed institutions such as a banking structure that allows you to trade.

A good example is Somaliland in Somalia, they have declared independent elected a governament and tried to seperate from the war racked rest of the country but no nation has recognised them. In effect they are unable to operate and almost nobody even knows this peacefull enclave exists in a war torn country.

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