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fox-mcleod t1_j1qv0d7 wrote

It’s also possible that events still happened before the Big Bang. Just not in any kind of cause > effect order. What started existing at the Big Bang was the arrow of time.

There could be time, just not space time with any meaningful relationships we would recognize constituting a recognizable “before” or “after” relationship. There could still be change as in your bubbling equilibrium theory.

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