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Aspy343 t1_j6le4cr wrote

Reply to comment by AbleReporter565 in ELI5: Why does the order of adjectives matter? by AbleReporter565

There's a super simple way of checking this, and that's to just say the sentence without the other person.

"Me and Joe went to the park" becomes "Me went to the park", which clearly sounds wrong.

"Joe and I went to the park" becomes "I went to the park", which clearly sounds right.

A lot of people think "Come upstairs with John and I" sounds right because of the "I" but when you remove the other person it becomes "Come upstairs with I", which is clearly wrong, so it should be "Come upstairs with me".

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czbz t1_j6oleer wrote

CGEL says it's not quite that simple. The sentence does have the other person and we can't necessarily ignore that fact. "Keep Tom and I updated" is not necessarily incorrect.

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