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homeboi808 t1_j6exkrv wrote
Yep, and tv since upgraded to 16x9. Hollywood movie have not, because they are wider, and it’d ruin that cinematic feel.
Well, certain IMAX movies/scenes are cropped to 16x9 from their originally taller former.
jaa101 t1_j6g9fpl wrote
Movies now are generally 2.39:1 or 1.85:1 whereas the 16:9 used for TVs is 1.78:1. So TVs are actually very close to one of the common cinema aspect ratios; the movies are only 4% wider.
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Any-Broccoli-3911 t1_j6ewv8b wrote
"For both eyes the combined visual field is 130–135° vertically[33][34] and 200–220° horizontally."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peripheral_vision
That means that the ideal screen ratio if you want to fill up someone's field of view while they are looking in the middle at a good distance is 0.61-0.65. 9/16 is 0.56 which is that far of. 1:2 would be 0.5 which is worse. 1:1 would be 1 which is very far from the ideal.
squigs t1_j6ly41r wrote
So why not 14:9? It's used, but not as a shooting format. Only as a compromise for 16:9 and 4:3.
tdscanuck t1_j6erxv5 wrote
Movies.
Movie makers like having a nice wide backdrop, it gives them a lot of room and, since we mostly operate on a (nearly) horizontal plane, there's a lot more interesting things happening to the left and right than up and down.
There a number of particular wide formats, it doesn't *have* to be 16:9, but that's why we generally like wide formats.
We got stuck with 4:3 for years on computer monitors & TVs because it's *very* difficult to make a widescreen CRT tube. They want to be 1:1 for technical reasons and 4:3 was about as close as they could get to a widescreen format that would look movie-ish.
Fast forward about 80 years and the technical constraints went away...modern LCD/LED screens don't care what shape they are.
16:9 got settled on as the standard format for DVD/HD TV as a nice compromise where virtually all widescreen movie (and now TV) formats look pretty good with minimal black bars for the weird movie formats, so now essentially all displays are 16:9 for maximum compatibility.
Equivalent_Comfort_2 t1_j6fmd1x wrote
Just to add to the others, the 2:1 aspect ratio is actually becoming more popular with cinematographers, presumably because the image is a bit wider and more "cinematic" than the standard 16:9 format.
For example Stranger Things and House of the Dragon are shot in 2:1, and reportedly it's the fastest-growing format in cinema.
Edit: Removed Star Trek since only Discovery S1 was shot in 2:1, after that they used 2.39:1
jaa101 t1_j6g9yu4 wrote
And The Rings of Power went all the way to 2.39:1. Is that a first for a TV show?
Equivalent_Comfort_2 t1_j6hnd45 wrote
I had to re-check Star Trek since I remember watching Picard and getting the feeling that the image is almost a bit too wide for the content of the show. Sure enough, Star Trek also went to 2.39 starting with Discovery S2 (2019). I've edited my previous comment.
Mother_Chorizo t1_j6gpxg2 wrote
This actually has my TV glitching out. It was oddly adjust screen ratios during scenes. Has to turn off the 2.39:1 ratio.
Specific-Salad3888 t1_j6h8x04 wrote
Is it just luck that 16:9 is 4:3 cubed. I'd always assumed there was a reason though never really investigated the thought
philmarcracken t1_j6evqxb wrote
16:9 is a compromise aspect ratio between older movies that were 4:3(going all the way back to black and white film) and 'modern' widescreen formats that sit around 21:9. Thats why you see the black bars at the top at bottom on 16:9 screens displaying 21:9 content.
I say 'modern' widescreen formats like 21:9 because the aspect ratio wars kicked off in the 1950's with Cinerama, which was three 35mm cameras taped together and required the same 3 projectors in the movie theater to work. Ridiculous complexity and cost. The war ended with some clever anamorphic lenses letting filmmakers use just the one 35mm camera(and therefore single cost of film) and using the reverse lens on the projector in the cinema.
This was all in effort to destroy peoples experience in watching movies at home on TVs(so they would buy movie tickets instead). It didn't work; people still did that, they watched 21:9 content on 4:3, which then had to be 'panned and scanned'. If you ask any director or DP about panning and scanning, you'll witness an entire horror movie play on their face. Or they'll just start swearing before you've finished saying 'scanning'.
The effect of P&S is taking a 21:9 movie like ben-hur, then having a teenager record that movie on their phone in vertical mode(9:16), trying to keep all the principal action in frame. A man named Ken Powers came along and established a compromise between 21:9 and 4:3 = 16:9. This is a now the dominate aspect outside the movie theaters, unless you buy specific ultra wide screen monitors or home projectors.