Comments

You must log in or register to comment.

drafterman t1_j6ezwf6 wrote

Fatalism is the believe that anything that happens is predetermined and inevitable.

Nihilism is the believe that nothing has inherent meaning or purpose.

40

InfintySquared t1_j6fb9r1 wrote

They are not necessarily mutual, not necessarily mutually exclusive.

9

DestinTheLion t1_j6h5k20 wrote

Say what you will about the tennets of Fatalism but at least it's an ethos.

5

Wild_Top1515 t1_j6fw9hz wrote

I.e.

there is no point because we will die anyways

vs.

there is no point because no specific point is more important than any other specific point and therefore values are meaningless and arbitrary

maybe?

1

drafterman t1_j6g1gyu wrote

No. Fatalism makes no statement about purpose or intent. You can be fatalistic and think there is no point or fatalistic and think there is a point. And neither has anything inherently to do with death.

4

Wild_Top1515 t1_j6g1zqc wrote

ahh who cares.

3

Dryctnath t1_j6ga6n2 wrote

No that's apathy.

6

Wild_Top1515 t1_j6gnwsa wrote

its was a joke lol

1

Tanagrabelle t1_j6hnd9q wrote

It was apathetic joke. (I am attempting a joke here, but I'm quite bad at it so I apologize.)

2

Wild_Top1515 t1_j6hz1yv wrote

haha thats really funny (i'm also joking)^((or am i?))

2

Unkindlake t1_j6gn2bs wrote

Nope. Try:

"I don't know if this coin will land on heads or tails, but if we could rewind time without changing anything and do it again it will land the same no matter how many times we do it"

vs.

"there is no inherent purpose in life, so I have to find or invent my own"

2

whomp1970 t1_j6jc1s2 wrote

I'm not a fatalist.

Even if I was, what could I do about it?

1

CalmCalmBelong t1_j6fluo2 wrote

Nihilism is that nothing happens for a reason. Fatalism is that, should nothing happen, it happened for a reason.

(slight /s)

8

SnowDemonAkuma t1_j6g6r12 wrote

Fatalism is a belief in fate. It has nothing to do with death or anything grim like that, simply that things are fated to happen.

Nihilism is a belief in nothing (from Latin "nihil"). That is to say, it is the belief that there is no inherent meaning or purpose to anything.

8

Archangel1313 t1_j6jw7xt wrote

Nihilism falls backwards into the abyss, with eyes closed and arms outstretched.

Fatalism dives in headfirst, wearing a shit-eating grin from ear to ear.

2

ParacelsusLampadius t1_j6gcczr wrote

Fatalism is an attitude to life that says, "Whatever happens is God's will." It can be psychologically healthy to stop worrying about things, and in practice is consistent with working hard, or with finding significance in things.

Nihilism is a refusal of all values. You do not believe it is bad if people die, for example. Nihilism gives no reason to work hard, and no possibility of finding significance in things.

−4

Dorocche t1_j6gfldx wrote

Doesn't have to be God, to be clear. Just the belief that whatever happens is fated to happen and there weren't any alternatives.

Edit: Wait, that description of Nihilism is completely wrong. Nihilism denies an objective "fundamental truth about the universe" source for morality and significance; they're not incapable of identifying morality and finding significance.

1