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hh26 t1_j5ilk7p wrote

Because there is no R. War has an 'r' in it, which makes the "rrr" sound at the end. Woman consists of 'wo' and "man", so that's how you pronounce it.

There are a lot of weird and inconsistent words in the English language. This is not one of them.

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cantrell_blues t1_j5ily7f wrote

I believe they may be using a non-rhotic dialect. Not all Englishes pronounce that R. I beleive they're asking why the vowel in "wo" is the vowel in "book" instead of the vowel in "god".

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AirborneRodent t1_j5ioqt3 wrote

Woman was originally spelled wifmann, from wif meaning "female" and mann meaning "person". The f eventually became an m, making wimmann.

Wif was pronounced "weef". The "ee" vowel is pronounced close to the front of the mouth. Over the centuries, the pronunciation of wimman changed, the vowel moving farther back in the mouth from an "ee" to an "ih" (as in "little"), then farther back to an "ooh" (as in "book").

The reason it's not pronounced with an "aww" (as in "yawn") or an "ahh" (as in "thought") is that these vowels are made even farther back in the mouth, close to the throat. They're also made with the mouth farther open than "ee", "ih", or "ooh". The vowel may have drifted from "ee" over the centuries, but it did not drift far enough to reach "ahh".

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cantrell_blues t1_j5imz53 wrote

It used to be pronounced the way we pronounce "women", but supposedly the W sound affected the singular woman to sound more like the vowel in "wool" than "will".

Why does it be the vowel in "wool" and not the vowel in "cough"? I've only ever seen the W sound explanation about its pronunciation, but the vowel in "will" be "wool" are pronounced in similar places of the mouths (similar "closed-ness" of the mouth), so it might have been a small move from one sound to another.

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Wilkoman t1_j5j0dd5 wrote

It's just because it...kind of just is pronounced that way. English is a mess of inconsistency.

If you start digging at one weird or contradictory spelling or pronunciation you'll never stop.

I find that the majority of native speakers almost use the language kind of instinctively?...without really understanding the 'rules' as such.

I'm sure someone cleverer than me will be able to explain the rules surrounding that particular pronunciation.

Just be aware that most of the 'rules' contradict themselves frequently.

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Edit: Add to this the broad range of English dialects and accents (even just across England), many of us pronounce the same words quite differently.

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