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SOULJAR t1_j9gnene wrote

Reply to comment by BeardyMike in [Homemade] Italian sandwich by lukemakesscran

I think they're referring to the type of sandwich, which appears to be something like a mozzarella di bufala e pomodoro sandwich.

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333222444333 t1_j9jb7lq wrote

> mozzarella di bufala e pomodoro

You can just say mozzarella and tomato.

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SOULJAR t1_j9jnab1 wrote

And you could call a enchilada a wrap, but you don’t.

Sometimes very classic dishes have names that stick outside their region.

That’s why we call it spaghetti bolognese and not meat noodles.

Did you not know this? Lol. That’s sort of how it works for many very popular classic/traditional dishes.

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333222444333 t1_j9jnmcg wrote

Enchilada and Bolgonese are in no way similar to saying "pomodoro" instead of tomato, for no reason at all.

Spaghetti aren't noodles, for a start.

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SOULJAR t1_j9jzkqn wrote

>no reason at all.

Try reading this: https://www.foodandwine.com/news/italian-sandwiches-eat-before-you-die

These sandwiches are popular enough that these are the common names often used outside of italy as well, and in this case, it was simply used to point out that this is a common, local, famous Italian sandwich.

It really isn't that complicated or confusing lol.

BTW "Pasta is the Italian name for them. The word "noodles" derives from the German name--Knudeln--for the exact same thing."

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BeardyMike t1_j9gnkvx wrote

Looks more like a British "Cured Meat, Cheese, & Salad" roll.

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SOULJAR t1_j9gp4g2 wrote

Not at all, imo. Even Brits would instantly recognize this very classically Italian sandwich as an Italian sandwich. The caprese ingredients in a mozzarella di bufala e pomodoro sandwich (basil, tomato, and fresh mozarella) are not something you find in in classic British sandwiches or salads.

Here are some of the most classic Italian sandwiches for familiarity: https://www.foodandwine.com/news/italian-sandwiches-eat-before-you-die

See #4. It's quite popular and famous for being Italian.

Now, here's some of the most popular British sandwiches - note that there's nothing even close, and nothing includes fresh mozarella or basil: https://www.tasteatlas.com/most-popular-sandwiches-in-united-kingdom

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BeardyMike t1_j9gqd0y wrote

Gotta say I disagree. Looks like a British made sandwich.

But I'm happy to go through why I think that:

  1. Bread looks like the overly crusty bread rolls we find in our supermarkets. The sandwiches I've enjoyed in Italy have all had much softer lighter bread.
  2. Meat looks quite light in colour, again very typical of the deli meat that is popular in the UK. I recall the italian cured meats to have a much deeper colour (flavour is better too).
  3. Basil leaves look like the ones I'd get in the UK, smaller leaves, just a potent in flavour... but much smaller than the Italians have served to me.
  4. Tomatoes look pretty good actually, but all the sliced toms I have had from Italy have been much bigger, we call them beef tomatoes here.
  5. Window in the background looks exactly like a typical british PVC Double Glazed window.

I'm almost certain that OP is in Britain, and I'll take a stab at Sainsbury's as the ingredient source.

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lukemakesscran OP t1_j9gres8 wrote

It always amazes me how incredibly pedantic people can be on Reddit. Congrats, you got me, I’m in Britain. If I had said Italian inspired would you stop being such a miserable pedantic weirdo?

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SOULJAR t1_j9gv9jb wrote

Not pedantic, just flat out incorrect.

He doesn't seem to understand the difference between a recipe and the use of local ingredients on a basic level lol.

I think he'd call KFC "chinese food" if it was made in china using local ingredients.

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BeardyMike t1_j9gy3nd wrote

Is not a meal made in China, by its very definition, "chinese food"?

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IrNinjaBob t1_j9gzioh wrote

Congratulations. You are the exact sort of person being complained about.

No. That’s quite literally not what anybody means when using the words “Chinese food” together. Language is about communicating ideas, and that’s obviously not the idea trying to be communicated when using those words.

“Well ackshuawally”.

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BeardyMike t1_j9grmgf wrote

As long as you keep making incredible looking food... I will remain a miserable pedant.

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SOULJAR t1_j9guk8p wrote

I mean, it's okay to be wrong and not know about classic italian food, but you seem very confused about food in general.

If you go to an Indian restaurant run by an Indian family in in the US, the fresh cilantro is not going to be flown in from India. It's still indian food, even if the cilantro looks different to you. The recipe is Indian. It's as simple as that. If you went in that indian restaurant and said "I think this is MEXICAN FOOD because the cilantro looks MEXICAN to me!" everyone would think you're completely insane (children included).

Now, you're trying to tell us that a famously italian recipe is confusing to you because the bread doesn't look like the exact kind in italy... but you can't recognize the basic underlying recipe that's being used is Italian?

You really thought the famous caprese was invented in Britain, because the basil leaves confused you that badly? Come on, my dude.

Look at the links I sent carefully to understand the recipes.

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BeardyMike t1_j9gwxgp wrote

No no, you've misunderstood me, and I take full responsibility for that.

It's called satire and sometimes it doesn't travel well.

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I'm gonna hazard a guess that you are a native english speaker but you're not from Great Britain.

Too polite to be American, so I'll say Canadian.

Our approaches to humour are too different, so I'll try a different tact, as I dont want to be poutine you down about it. So lets start fresh, and Maple we can find a way to converse without all the hockey pokey.

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My goodness u/SOULJAR, I think we can both agree that's a fine looking sandwich, however I'm almost positive that it was made by British hands, Scottish if I have to pick a part of GB, with undoubtedly British ingredients. I'm sure that if OP had a larder stacked full of authentic italian ingredients, the sandwiches coming out of their kitchen would be simply divine. It's a shame that the lackluster ingredients we have here in the UK are unable to give such a recipe as this, the justice it deserves.

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