Submitted by ZtephenGrackus t3_ycokc9 in food
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texmexdaysex t1_itp87dc wrote
What does the vodka do for the sauce? Thinner?
yummyyummybrains t1_itq1uli wrote
Someone already answered, but a deeper answer is: alcohol does change the way flavors are expressed. Some substances are water soluble. Some are fat soluble. Alcohol does a pretty good job of breaking down some substances that don't break down in water -- but maybe aren't fat soluble (but they could also be). You may notice that many/most degreasing products in your kitchen contain a non-potable form of alcohol -- for this very reason.
So, if you introduce alcohol into food, the alcohol can react with the other ingredients, and introduce subtle changes to the flavor -- because of what I described above. There may be a chance that it can also help as an emulsifier (i.e. helps to blend oil/fat and water) to better combine the cream and tomato.
Additionally, if the booze you use has its own flavor profile (like wine, or bourbon), you'll be adding those flavors as well. Risotto absolutely needs white wine (or verjus) or it tastes "flat". Same with beef bourguignon.
Vodka is a neutral spirit (for the most part), so the flavor profile will be secondary to any other property its inclusion brings.
KoloHickory t1_itqf0in wrote
this seems so well written i feel like a chimp in comparison
UEMcGill t1_itqqlu8 wrote
Grrat explanation so I'll add to it. Lycopenes specifically are alcohol soluble and vodka helps in getting them into the flavor profile. (alcohol is a not an emulsifier though, here its a solubilizer) The ethanol extracts it, then evaporates leaving it suspended in the sauce.
MsChrissikins t1_itp8988 wrote
There is a tanginess added to it that pairs really well with the acidic tomato! Highly recommend giving it a try :)
notinmywheelhouse t1_itqyveh wrote
This is the true answer
New-Cricket21 t1_itq4wv2 wrote
Wow your pasta is unique! How did you do this one
katyssecrets t1_itr626e wrote
I never eat vodkasauce in my life
MsChrissikins t1_ittipk1 wrote
There are many premade ones in the pasta sauce isle- but I highly recommend looking up a well rated recipe and following along :)
scooby3doobydq t1_itnrtrn wrote
I made this tonight (with prosciutto.) there's not enough praise I could give for this dish. I make a lot of Italian food, and I like to think I'm pretty good at it.
Pineapple_Assrape t1_itprpha wrote
Do you have the recipe you used? Would love to try it
Foublanc t1_itpyls6 wrote
I too would love to have your recipe please 🤤
LargishBosh t1_itohmgn wrote
Vodka sauce is sooo good. Once I was shopping with my preschooler and I asked them what kind of pasta sauce we should buy. They just shouted “Vodka! Vodka! Vodka!” so enthusiastically in the middle of the store and it made my day. Extra funny because I don’t like the taste of alcohol so I don’t drink myself.
ipakookapi t1_itpcf8e wrote
😅
OobleCaboodle t1_itoyosc wrote
Why vodka? It's famously devoid of any taste, what does it bring to a dish?
baa_ram_ewe t1_itp4h2d wrote
helps to emulsify the tomato and cream parts of the sauce, so they don't separate. enhances the flavor of the other ingredients, and gives the sauce a little extra kick.
OobleCaboodle t1_itpdidg wrote
Ooh, interesting. I'll have to try it. How many bottles would go into a two person serving? Bottle each?
JoneeJonee t1_itpg40x wrote
You know what, try it. It could be a great pasta!
aaronblue342 t1_itpw37b wrote
As much as you can handle /s
Like a 1/4 cup, if im doing the math right from my recipe as I remember it. Also make it top shelf so it wont impart any unwanted flavors.
Fun fact, it doesnt boil off, its just so diluted you wont get drunk.
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ZtephenGrackus OP t1_itpctrc wrote
Baa below got it! It adds a great bite with the tomato (and garlic and red pepper yum) and helps the cream mix.
JimiChangazz t1_itpqerl wrote
Hey this might be a stupid question but how did you get that garnish (basil?) to look like that, the thin strips?
KrumTheBarbarian t1_itpravj wrote
Place a buncha leaves on top of each other, roll them up, slice. It's called something but I can't remember what.
ZtephenGrackus OP t1_itpvcu2 wrote
Not stupid at all! It's called chiffonade. You stack the leaves on top of each other and roll then cut into strips.
JimiChangazz t1_itsotff wrote
Thank you!
KayBee94 t1_itpx63a wrote
It's called a chiffonade, for those wondering.
JimiChangazz t1_itsotyg wrote
Thank you!
OobleCaboodle t1_itpfbbf wrote
Cool! I'll have to give it a try
Poldi1 t1_itp1tox wrote
I want to know as well
S_Radders t1_itp3ars wrote
Brings out the flavours from the other ingredients.
Tmsrise t1_ito8phu wrote
Recipe? :)
ZtephenGrackus OP t1_itpczlm wrote
Wow this blew up overnight! Here's the recipe. It's super simple and only a few ingredients so use nice quality tomato and cheese. I use this process but will add more vodka and cook the tomatoe longer.
https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/rigatoni-with-easy-vodka-sauce/amp
cdnsalix t1_itqk7i8 wrote
Is double concentrated tomato paste a common thing? I don't think I've ever seen it, but maybe I'm not reading labels well enough in my local Mercato.
notinmywheelhouse t1_itqz5qk wrote
Mutti brand in the tube is very good as are their other canned tomatoes varieties.
ZtephenGrackus OP t1_itqklew wrote
It's usually the stuff in a tube (as opposed to a can) and is much stronger than regular tomato paste. Lots of extra tomato goodness.
Jimmy_Twotone t1_itqkauq wrote
I've only had store bought vodka sauce, and it was always horrible. how does home made (other than fresher and presumably better) compare flavor wise?
ZtephenGrackus OP t1_itqktcn wrote
I've admittedly never had store or jarred vodka sauce but I would imagine homemade is miles apart! I wouldn't think grocery store sauce would have actual vodka in it which is a key flavor (and ingredient to making it silky smooth).
ZoqY t1_its4vse wrote
Slowly I'm learning how useful tomato paste is when you want to make a sauce but you don't want the runniness of regular tomatoes. It's like putting condensed milk in chai tea
smirker t1_itook1g wrote
Not OP, and this one has a few other things going on, but I have been making it on the regular for a few years now and am a big fan.
https://www.food.com/recipe/spicy-sausage-vodka-cream-sauce-302683
SmokierTrout t1_itp5mhl wrote
So it's like an arrabiata, but with added vodka and cream? How would you compare the two?
aaronblue342 t1_itpwlro wrote
About the same, creamier as you might expect. If I'm eating it I prefer pink vodka but arrabiata is easier to make. I find others make their pink vodka sauce spicier aswell.
Interesting-Poet-258 t1_itoai51 wrote
I am blessed to have the spicy rigatoni vodka sauce recipe from a place that is very well known for it. It’s almost there staple dish
Beneficial_Exchange6 t1_itolgnr wrote
Please do share 👀
cdnsalix t1_itql6xh wrote
You can't say this and not share. If it's not a rule, it should be. 😄
Interesting-Poet-258 t1_itqlisl wrote
I would but I literally had to sign an NDA for it lol(I was a chef there, it was in my contract)
ericz14 t1_itowfg3 wrote
Yeah please share
141Frox141 t1_itog0ik wrote
I'll have one, hold the pasta, hold the sauce, extra vodka
AndyMike9 t1_ito66dj wrote
I would pay you money to let me put this in my mouth
nostaljack t1_itpurlk wrote
I have never seen a pasta with vodka sauce look this appealing. I’d smash.
Alarmed-Pie8132 t1_itnu7da wrote
Beautiful, chef!
ZtephenGrackus OP t1_itnvmji wrote
🥰
seviay t1_itonznf wrote
Come on now, recipe or it didn’t happen
mikalismu t1_itpoqgp wrote
This looks soo good
Wishilikedhugs t1_itpvmq5 wrote
Vodka sauce is great and it amazes me how many people don't know about it. I'm from NJ and a couple of the pizzerias by me had it as a sauce option and that shit was legit. Been missing it since moving to MD where the pizza and I don't exactly get along. Anyway, if you make your own pizza, I suggest trying it!
ZtephenGrackus OP t1_itpy6p2 wrote
NJ to PA so I feel you on the pizza (and bagels). I made extra sauce to use in a chicken parm type sandwich. Pizza would be amazing with a vodka sauce base!
Wishilikedhugs t1_itpyzqh wrote
If it's Eastern PA, there's a shot of good pizza. If it's Pennsyltucky, then I'm very sorry.
ZtephenGrackus OP t1_itpzb6h wrote
Philly suburbs, which you think would have passable options but nope! I've found some good ones but they're still not the same and not on every other corner like NJ. Same with diners, weirdly not a "thing" around here.
Wishilikedhugs t1_itq00ks wrote
That's been my experience in MD. I can't just go anywhere and expect it be decent. I've asked locals for help and then I realized that their taste in pizza is not the same as mine. I've had more than one person tell me Papa John's and every other chain you can think of. They really like this stuff called Ledo, which consists of cracker crust, ketchup esque sweet sauce and undercooked provolone on top..they think that's good pizza. It feels so defeating.
I totally get you with the burb issue though. At least you can take the bridge over. There's lots of good pizza in Cherry Hill.
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Help_An_Irishman t1_itq9sng wrote
Is this the Bon Appétit recipe? I think I make this same one, and it's amazing!
ZtephenGrackus OP t1_itqg0uu wrote
It is! I love this recipe. So streamlined and easy.
JTibbs t1_itqgd5w wrote
Looking at it, i realize i made essentially the same recipe, only with a handful of spinach added to it the other day with gnocci as the pasta when i had nothing else in my pantry.
It was a real ‘i aint got shit, what can i throw together’ night.
ZtephenGrackus OP t1_itqlc56 wrote
Those kinds of nights sometimes produce great dinners! Love this one because its a handful of pantry ingredients with a big payout.
Playful_Bee9967 t1_itqfs2m wrote
Dang! I have all the ingredients for this, so guess what's fo dinner! Thannks for sharing!!
ZtephenGrackus OP t1_itqlcyz wrote
Hell yeah!
Ript1de t1_itqk0jp wrote
It looks fantastic! I haven't made my vodka sauce in forever because I have been trying to lose weight so I'm avoiding pasta, but penne alla vodka is my go to "impressive" meal. I made it for my now fiancee before we started dating. I make mine with a base of homemade marinara instead of just tomato paste. Usually I make the marinara for something else, and then use the Leftovers for vodka sauce. However when I made it for my fiancee, I woke up early before work and made the marinara that morning, and then made the vodka sauce and pasta. I brought it to her at work(we met at work, call center where worked the same schedule) and dropped it by her desk. It was a birthday present because she had never had it before. She ate some of it, and then took it home and her roommates ate the rest of it. They told her then she needed to dump her current s/o and date me instead. We started actually dating a couple weeks later.
notinmywheelhouse t1_itqyo51 wrote
I made a vodka meat sauce with basil on rotini last night and it was yummy
JoinYourLife2020 t1_itqzynd wrote
Looks delicious 😋
abbiebe89 t1_itr3vgd wrote
Perfecto! 🍝
Lt_Dans_Left_Leg t1_itr6s9z wrote
This looks delicious!
sarahhopefully t1_itr8xx8 wrote
Yum!! This is on my list for this week. I love the recipe from Smitten Kitchen and usually cook up some Italian sausage to go on top too. I love the pasta shape you chose!
sayidOH t1_itra551 wrote
Gimme dat.
Havoc_XXI t1_itrm33n wrote
Wow, looks amazing
SaabVigen t1_itsmc72 wrote
A+ presentation, good use of garnish.
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OldMork t1_itne232 wrote
Looks great!
UnequaledGorilla14 t1_itni7pf wrote
So yummy.
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That’s some good looking vodka sauce!!
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Dannyboy765 t1_itp12l4 wrote
Vodka sauce is way better than traditional spaghetti sauce IMO. I get that they're not the same flavor profiles, so you can't fully compare, but they have similarities
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emkay99 t1_itpge0h wrote
I don't think I've ever had vodka sauce. But I've drunk vodka and (unless it's flavored) it really has no taste. So if you burn off the alcohol in the cooking, what's left?
JTibbs t1_itpwfmk wrote
Iirc alcohol will alter the flavor of some foods by dissolving some compounds into solution that are not necessarily water soluable, so some vodka added to a totatonsauce can enhance or bring out new flavors.
emkay99 t1_itqa3uv wrote
Okay, thanks. I wasn't aware of alcohol acting as a deeper chemical catalyst. I cook with wine frequently, and I've cooked with rum (though I don't really like the taste of rum from a glass), and those, of course, add an extra taste to the dish -- but it's a taste of "themselves," if you follow what I mean. It's like adding any other ingredient. This is a whole different issue that I hadn't considered.
JTibbs t1_itqb3bm wrote
Vodkas used in a tomato cream sauce like that because of the lack of flavor, so it only serves to enhance and not impart a wine taste or additional sugars/caramel/etc.. a dry, very clean tasting white rum might be a substitute though.
Honestly, the purer the better. Ive had some white rums before that were basically indistinguishable from vodka.
ZtephenGrackus OP t1_itpxwnm wrote
It melds with the acid in the tomato, the bite of the garlic, the spice from the red pepper. Really a great combo. Really enhances the other flavors. It also helps blend the cream in so it doesn't break.
gerd50501 t1_itpj4xu wrote
What is the garnish?
thepombenator t1_itpr9ca wrote
Basil
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Tobl4 t1_itppa2v wrote
Since the vodka seems to be primarily for the bite and alcohol emulsion, could one replace it with another clear spirit if you don't have vodka around?
sausagemuffn t1_itqgl05 wrote
Distilled white spirits tend to be very similar in having a lack of flavour aside from ethanol's own bite. Some do, if course, like gin, where flavour is added after first distillation. As long as the alcohol is tasteless, it will work.
ripmysub t1_ittwo9b wrote
A nice citrusy gin seems like it would be nice in the right dish
sausagemuffn t1_itu2lyj wrote
That juniper flavour though...I don't know. Maybe something just right for it.
silkymoonshine t1_itpsmla wrote
I made this yesterday, but with yellow cachaça instead of vodka and it left a taste - still tasty, but much better with vodka, lol. I love this sauce.
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cdnsalix t1_itql2ij wrote
The recipe I have calls to add the vodka to the meat before the tomato stuff, and to egnite it. Opinions on egniting the vodke vs not in terms of flavour?
ZtephenGrackus OP t1_itqlxzs wrote
I think igniting it "burns" the alcohol bite off quicker. I usually opt to just deglaze with liquor because I'm scared to burn down my apartment hahaha. I've done it before (in smaller pans, this was a big pot) and haven't noticed a huge difference in taste. Maybe just a timing difference.
cdnsalix t1_itqmwvu wrote
Now I'm just embarrassed I misspelled "ignite" not just one but twice. I was arguing aloud with the spellcheck on my phone for suggesting other words (yet none of which was "ignite"). Not sure if I need cold medication, more coffee, or sleep. Probably all of the above.
Crymsm t1_itrjxj9 wrote
I've always wondered what to use Vodka sauce for...like what meats and pasta it tastes good with
J_Dawg-v3 t1_itrohnp wrote
Nice?
ZtephenGrackus OP t1_itsnodq wrote
Thanks dawg?
J_Dawg-v3 t1_ittqbs7 wrote
I mean does it taste nice
ZtephenGrackus OP t1_itwbek2 wrote
It really does.
J_Dawg-v3 t1_itwbl5c wrote
👍
georgke t1_itp2c4r wrote
Isn't this very similar to Stroganoff? Another great liquor for tomato sauce iss is Pastis/Sambuca or yeni raki. The anis flavour plays really well with tomato. Add some prawns in there to if you like.
TheLadyEve t1_itqfvck wrote
No, Stroganoff has sour cream in it and is usually based on beef stock, and it usually has mushrooms in it and isn't tomato-based. The flavor is completely different.
georgke t1_itqjv2f wrote
Youre right, I've been lied to all my life cause a restaurant we frequented when I was younger served beef stroganoff and it definitely had tomato in it.
ZtephenGrackus OP t1_itqlhry wrote
Maybe paprikash? Similar to a stroganoff but with tomato (and paprika).
TheLadyEve t1_itsqa9m wrote
Makes sense if it's paprikash, that has the sour cream and red color from the paprika and some versions have tomatoes, so it seems like a good comparison point. Not vodka sauce, though! I will say, I think your sauce looks absolutely lovely.
cdnsalix t1_itqlyhv wrote
Beats drinking Raki. Still have a bottle from Türkiye from our honeymoon over ten years ago. Ha!
this_dudeagain t1_itpa1qi wrote
Velveeta and vodka will get you there.
Sighwtfman t1_itnfllq wrote
Looks really good.
I'm not really a pasta person. Or more accurately I see something like this and I can't help but think it would go well with meat. Chicken. Hot sausage*. Something.
But that's me. 80% carnivore.
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*I used to live near a pasta Italian place. It was a weird place. They served high-end food at mid-level prices. I loved it. They made their own sausages. And their spicy Italian was incredible. Just out of this world. Which is great until you move and forever more all Italian sausages taste second third best at best.
hitthelique t1_itnl1ow wrote
The fuck are you on about?
seviay t1_itony60 wrote
Sir, this is a Wendy’s
DongKonga t1_itp7wej wrote
You’re supposed to put the vodka in the sauce not drink it
MsChrissikins t1_itnhxzf wrote
Looooove me a good vodka sauce! Looks delicious!