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spaceminions t1_j7zf3h4 wrote

Ubuntu and it's derivatives were already very n00b popular.


c010rb1indusa t1_j7zz054 wrote

No it never was.

That's what linux needs to overcome.


[deleted] t1_j80iwty wrote

And you think Arch overcomes this problem?


c010rb1indusa t1_j80vplr wrote

No Arch nor KDE plasma have nothing to do with it specifically. It's that there is now a 'default' UI/UX that general consensus can be built around. That's what important. Valve could have chosen debian+gnome for SteamOS I would have felt the same way. Ubuntu tried to be noob friendly, but it's been offered with several different DEs. And Linux Mint which is meant to be the most like Windows, has existed for years with the cinnamon DE that is different from what Ubunutu would ship with and/or recommend over the years. Windows doesn't have the best UX/UI, but people freaked out when Windows 8 removed the start menu because it was different, not that it was necessarily worse. You need UI/UX consensus for a desktop OS to grow in the mainstream. Hell Windows still has the legacy control panel with redundant settings because it's difficult to not only redesign but to replicate the UI/UX w/ the new settings panel even though the new settings menu debuted in Windows 8 almost 10 years ago!


spaceminions t1_j82ngau wrote

It's a lot bigger deal to do the arch thing than to use a less-common DE if you aren't changing it a lot. (the arch thing being "if you were really 1337 you'd compile your audio drivers from scratch instead of complaining that they're not preloaded!" in my mind lol). Windows is a nightmare and I am glad I don't have to work for MS.


spaceminions t1_j82n5a0 wrote

I've been less than impressed with that channel for a long time, so I didn't watch that, but I think it would help if I mention that my definition of n00b popular is for non-gaming purposes. Ubuntu (and to a lesser extent Mint, although I prefer to use that one) is universally understood as a very convenient and perfectly decent platform that's basically guaranteed to have people who've already used whatever software you need to run. There are more minimalist distros, which may be reasonable to use as a base for tweaking and optimizing, but if you want to spin up a machine in a limited amount of time and have everything you need as soon as possible, it's great for that. Doesn't even make you stop and remember commands, because you can count on the GUI way of changing whatever you want to be reasonable.