Vanman04 t1_j8cl5xq wrote on February 13, 2023 at 8:23 AM

Reply to comment by ReviewImpossible3568 in PC CPU Shipments See Steepest Decline in 30 Years by diacewrb

Well yes and no.

Yes it's an Soc but it is not magic memory.it's ddr5 with an apple proprietary connection.

The point remains the memory is not nearly as expensive as what apple.is charging for it. It is also a practice they have had since long before the new CPU.

Apple has one of the highest profit margins in the world and it is because they overcharge you for everything.

I would not touch one of these machines with a ten foot pole just because of the proprietary fort nox they have on replacement parts.I mean it is beyond ridiculous at this point. They now have the track pad serialized so you can't replace it without getting the part from them.

That's predatory in my opinion.

Nice machines but apple can go fuck right off.

ReviewImpossible3568 t1_j8cn10n wrote on February 13, 2023 at 8:50 AM

Yeah, I mostly agree with that. I’m not gonna pretend that I’m a hugely knowledgeable memory nerd, but I do know a bit and I’m pretty sure that having the memory on the package gives some form of benefit, and obviously because it’s on-package you’re not gonna be able to replace it. That said, their soldered DDR4 chips in their older (2016-2019 afaik) laptops were pretty stupid and anti-consumer.

And yes, Apple does charge extra for their machines. I’m happy to pay it because I live in the walled garden and because I’m reasonably sure that they’re not monetizing my data in return for that extra money that I pay them, but I can see why people would be upset about it. I own a custom build as well and while I love tinkering with it (I just did a full transplant into a smaller ITX case, which was a huge pain but super rewarding), my Apple devices just fit my life better. I would never want to do any form of work on my Windows machine, those little creature comforts that you get from having a full ecosystem (seriously, I own and actively use every single class of their products except a desktop Mac) are just without parallel. Nobody has created the ecosystem that they have, and that + privacy is really what you’re paying for when you spend $400 extra for RAM that costs them like, $50 to make.