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laserdicks t1_j8uj608 wrote

The worst of both and the benefits of neither.


largephilly t1_j8wgcos wrote

That is how innovation starts. Unless you’re getting secret alien blueprints from the centre of the hollow earth.


shouldbebabysitting t1_j8wisxm wrote

It's the high tech equivalent of a DiWhy. I love eink but this project makes no sense outside of it being art.


largephilly t1_j8y344m wrote

How do you invidious a future beyond dslr? What do those experiments look like? The creative process should be appreciated for more than “did you give me something I didn’t have”


shouldbebabysitting t1_j8y6ngt wrote

The problem is that it displays a digital photo that neither has the output quality of an lcd or oled, nor the physical permanence of a physical photo like a Polaroid. If the eink plugged in like film so the "print" could be handed out like a Polaroid, it would be more interesting.

DSLR, being a particular technology for autofocus, is entirely beside the point.


largephilly t1_j8z2t6d wrote

If we suddenly didn’t have access to the supply chain we do now. DSLR cameras would not be possible at scale. So what alternatives do we have once parts run out and prices skyrocket? This, to me, is an exploration of that question.


Bryceybryce t1_j8zj64z wrote

Bruh there’s like 15 bajilion used film SLRs and range finders + mirrorless cameras + point and shoots + digital range finders. Literally could do anything else besides a dslr and take better photos than this stupid solution for a problem that doesn’t exist. If people want analog experiences they should use analog technology. Using digital to replicate analog (poorly) is a waste of time imo. It would be interesting as an interactive art exhibit. As a product it’s e-waste


shouldbebabysitting t1_j8zub56 wrote

> DSLR cameras would not be possible at scale.

I don't think you understand what DLSR means. DLSR stands for digital single lens reflex camera. Before in sensor phase detection was possible, or laser range finders were possible, a separate sensor chip was used for focus. For this separate chip to work with the actual imaging sensor, a prism was mechanically raised into the path of the image to allow for autofocus, then quickly moved away at the moment of capture.

DSLR is a mechanical kludge to work around technical limitations of the time. It is more complex and requires more parts than modern cameras. If there was a supply chain problem, DSLR's would be harder to make than modern cameras. My main camera is a DSLR. But it is obsolete.

The Paperoid uses a ESP32 cam board that has a fixed focus lens. It is not a DSLR. Pretty much any cheap sensor is better quality than the ESP32 cam. Raspberry PI has a new autofocus sensor that's far better. The method of focus is irrelevant to the imaging (sensor) and storage/display (lcd or epaper) of photos.


largephilly t1_j9130qd wrote

If you don’t know what I’m trying to say you can just ask for clarification. When people bring up a Dslr camera they generally aren’t talking about literal DSLR just the fucking era in cameras. Jesus you egos are impossible to talk too. Fckn photographers man.


shouldbebabysitting t1_j915eb5 wrote

I already explained it earlier and you continued with your nonsense.

Referring to the "era" is still nonsense as I already explained that there are plenty of better sensors. Your "what if" about "supply chain" doesn't make any sense. When the supply chain dried up last year, hobbiest components became impossible to get. $35 Pi's were selling for $150.


largephilly t1_j917ibo wrote

Which would mean we would need to envision something new. You gotta make things that no one else is making and deal with good little people who can’t see beyond what’s already possible.


shouldbebabysitting t1_j919935 wrote

>Which would mean we would need to envision something new.

???? How do you go from I can't get bad sensors when there is a supply chain problem to, "I need to make a camera with a bad sensor."

Again, it's cool as an art idea.


largephilly t1_j91f737 wrote

Shall we go over the differences between “bad” and “new”? I know u get hot for some semantics bb.


shouldbebabysitting t1_j91hl5a wrote

"If we suddenly didn’t have access to the supply chain we do now. DSLR cameras would not be possible at scale."

If we suddenly didn't have access to the supply chain as we do now, his camera wouldn't be possible but higher quality cameras would be. As I already explained, hobbiest parts are last in line.

I don't think you read the article or if you did you don't understand any of it. The "new" part wasn't using an esp32cam. There have been thousands of people making esp32 cameras before this person. Tens of thousands of others have purchased Pi cam modules.

The new part was using ePaper instead of an lcd.

As the creator said, his ePaper camera is an interesting concept where you can take a single permanent photo. When you take another photo, your previous photo is lost forever.

The camera part, that you've been obsessed about, is completely irrelevant.