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JeffMorse2016 t1_j99tshs wrote

Game changer for diabetics if true and accurate. May be enough to move me from Apple if it works.

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GonnaNeedMoreSpit t1_j99wa9z wrote

I bet it comes with disclaimer saying its not meant to be used as a medical device and readings are not to be considered accurate. But it might help some people realise they need to seek medical advice so better than not having the feature.

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TalkativeVoyeur t1_j9a8m85 wrote

And after watch 4 I would not be surprised if it only works in the US and south Korea with no intention of ever expanding... I'm still waiting for Samsung to activate BP on my watch 4

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Draevon t1_j9abhuj wrote

Garmin released a stand-alone blood pressure monitor for the USA and the option in some countries to add manual readings too from regular devices, it's been months and for some reason even that hasn't been rolled out globally, must be a hassle

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KN_Knoxxius t1_j9aw8xa wrote

BP works fine for me in Denmark (Europe), where are you located since you think only US and Korea gets it?

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TalkativeVoyeur t1_j9b3qx6 wrote

BP works in other regions now, but initially it was those two and it took like a year to expand and only to a few countries.

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Tambani t1_j9d4g0y wrote

BP works great on Watch5 in Australia. I calibrate it every two weeks and it's reliable enough my cardiologist has asked me to send my reading trends.

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EntMe t1_j9akpko wrote

Absolutely. Diagnostic measurements require regulatory approval. Without accuracy and reliability, the 'benenfit' you mention could just as well swing the other way.

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Bodhgaya t1_j9cpf4u wrote

It's good enough for most people to just know the direction and magnitude of blood sugar response.

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watduhdamhell t1_j9e4087 wrote

Sure. But all that matters is does it actually do the job? If the general reviews/consensus is yes, then that's good enough imo.

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Uporabik t1_j9a8g1q wrote

Rockley has put out a dev wristband with newest sensors which include glucose, pressure, alcohol. If they are reliable enough I am sure Apple will include them

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TalkativeVoyeur t1_j9bcej0 wrote

Just Googled rockley photonics and it seems they went bust :(. Hopefully the tech is already out here and someone will continue to develop it

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Uporabik t1_j9e6pdb wrote

I heard some rumors that apple will probably buy them out to have patents under the roof

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SlowThePath t1_j9d52fz wrote

Techs simply not there yet. We have other cool solutions though. Between my pump and my dexcom that talk to eachother and give me insulin or stop it when needed I'm cyborged out over here. I think it's cool.

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Bfrank_ t1_j9byuop wrote

I’m in the same boat. I would switch to Samsung immediately if they released a non-invasive blood sugar reader that was accurate/reliable

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Say_no_to_doritos t1_j9al8zp wrote

I'm pretty sure there are real time monitoring equipment that administers directly so you don't need to worry.

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LastStar007 t1_j9av0m2 wrote

I have one of those, and it's great, but it's still not quite "there yet". The corrective algorithm takes extreme precautions against dropping your blood sugar below normal levels, which is understandable, but it means that it's sluggish at dealing with high blood sugar.

But that's the "administering directly" part. The tech for "real-time monitoring" is pretty mature at this point, but it still requires you to inject something under your skin and wear a patch with a Bluetooth transmitter on it. It expires every 10 days and has a 2-hour warmup period where you also can't get readings. In terms of benefit vs. inconvenience, it's still well worth it, but a noninvasive means of measuring blood sugar would still be an improvement.

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Young_warthogg t1_j9be5kn wrote

Being able to calibrate my CGM when I’m not near my glucose monitor would be very convenient. It doesn’t even need to be that accurate CGMs are often off +/- 20

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LastStar007 t1_j9bj07u wrote

Which CGM are you on? The Dexcom G6 not needing calibration has been a dream.

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Young_warthogg t1_j9bk6ti wrote

I’m on the Medtronic guardian sensor, I asked my endo about switching over given all the positive things I’ve heard. Her reaction was “your a1c is under 7, why are you going to change what works” so I’ll stick with it for now.

Does the Dexcom automatically adjust basal rate based on bgl? Right now the guardian does and with the next version can auto bolus correction doses.

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___Dan___ t1_j9c70ry wrote

Medtronic has been one of the worst systems out there for several years running. And what your endo said is hardly a reason not to change. Push back if you want the dexcom, you have to own the results and live with it everyday not your endo. I’d even fire the endo and move on if you have to

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LastStar007 t1_j9cpnnl wrote

Dexcom only makes CGMs, not pumps, so they've partnered with Tandem.

Dexcom and Tandem delivered the auto bolus correction doses years ago. Surprised Medtronic hasn't caught up yet.

Edit: also, the fact that you're so successful with Medtronic makes me think that you'd handle the switch better than most. If you're a good shot with iron sights, you'll be an even better shot with a scope.

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No-Carry-7886 t1_j9a6txc wrote

It’s almost guaranteed to just be a shitty watch app that integrates with actual glucose monitors oh which only two or three work otherwise you have to manually log it.

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Rrraou t1_j9aoupa wrote

I'd probably get one out of curiosity if it actually works.

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DeusSpaghetti t1_j9cn3t6 wrote

Their fall detection system is fantastic as well. Wife has POTS and haven't had a false negative ever in a few years use. Does pick up seizures as well.

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onyxium t1_j9h2zqt wrote

I might be misunderstanding but based on the language of the article and it’s source, it’s talking about basically a knockoff add on to the Freestyle Libre 2, which itself is an arguably inferior tech to the Dexcom which has been around for years - and already synced with Apple Watch and some fitbits.

So while it has definitely been a game changer for a lot of us, Samsung’s several years late to that party.

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MajorKoopa t1_j9amzpf wrote

Samsung is usually trailing apple in features. I’d bet they know something we don’t know.

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makesyoudownvote t1_j9at6g8 wrote

Are they?

I feel like this is definitely not the case. Apple trails pretty much the entire industry in features. They just dominate by holding off until the features actually work well enough to be worth it.

Samsung generally is at the forefront of new features, but they aren't always well known or advertised because Samsung doesn't always have full confidence in their reliability.

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MajorKoopa t1_j9atpf6 wrote

Ehhh…you ever see what Samsung phones looked like before the iPhone? When they got rid of the headphone jack? Overall form factor and style? If your talking about foldable shit sure, but even their watch is a look back at apple’s.

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makesyoudownvote t1_j9b3ruk wrote

Are you really trying to argue that getting rid of the phone jack counts as adding a feature?

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MajorKoopa t1_j9bgqta wrote

No. It’s a trailing indicator of Samsung following Apple’s mobile device direction.

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makesyoudownvote t1_j9cudky wrote

Ok, but you said features not trends or standards.

Apple does not lead in features at all. They are probably among the least innovative in terms of the phone manufacturers. They don't have to because they are the gold standard. They dictate the market.

When they adopt a new feature, it's almost always a feature another phone manufacturer has already created and had some degree of success with. What Apple does is refine and perfect. They will often use different nomenclature and subtly different protocols to make it appear like they innovated, but really it's just a refined and more specialized version of something someone else has already done.

Other manufacturers innovate because they are competing with each other and Apple. Apple gets to sit back and learn from their successes and mistakes. Then they get to issue their stamp of approval on the features and release a finished and polished version of the feature themselves that is more stable, more intuitive and more simplified. That's what they do.

Apple is much more likely to remove features (like the phone jack) and convince customers that they don't need it or it's obsolete. Other manufacturers can then choose to retain the feature, to try to distinguish themselves from Apple, or not. But because Apple has a reputation for being the gold standard and industry leader, this is often a losing game because any attempt to make their phones seem different from Apple makes them only feel cheaper or inferior to average consumers even if it's objectively a better feature.

Also, I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about with the Samsung phones before the iPhone. Do you mean pre-2007? This is first off so long ago that it has no place in the current conversation, and secondly you are talking about two different types of devices. The smartphone space was extremely limited until the iPhone popularized it in 2007 and Androids weren't commercially available until almost a year and a half later. Samsung was not making smartphones at all until 2009 *Edit: I forgot about the Samsung Blackjack. I had the first iPhone, and got it on the first day of it's release. Up to that point the only remotely popular smart phones were blackberries, palm pilots, and then the sidekick and chocolate JUST before the iPhone came out. IPhone's principle innovation was being first to market with a full color touchscreen interface that was designed not to require a stylus for precision and integrating the features of their iPod into it. The original iPhone didn't even use apps until it had been out for almost a full year.

In terms of the smart watch, Apple hardly innovated either. There were several smart watch companies that predate the Apple watch, and when Apple introduced the Apple watch the biggest difference between that and the other options was that it integrated better with the phone's OS. Microsoft, Seiko, Fitbit, Suunto, Fossil, and I think Pebble all had smartwatches before Apple and Apple's really didn't add any especially new features. They did better integration with the proprietary OS that they own and have exclusive access to, but that's about it.

I'm not hating on Apple here just so you understand. There is a good reason they are in the position they are in. Their products are the most well polished and reliable. Their mobile chips are the most powerful and their software is extremely optimized in ways no one else can match. But if you think they do that much in terms of feature innovation, you've been drinking the Kool-Aid my friend. They fall behind even small blip companies in that regard specifically.

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IceBreak t1_j9a62x1 wrote

Apple’s been working on it awhile. Tech isn’t there for them yet but maybe soon. Then again they’ve been trying to get touch id reworking for half a decade.

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MrTurkle t1_j9acaj9 wrote

Touch ID doesn’t work? It’s flawless on my Macbook

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WhenKittensATK t1_j9apurn wrote

Referring to blood glucose monitor and not fingerprint reader

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MrTurkle t1_j9aq0ca wrote

He said they’ve been trying to get touchID reworking for half a decade. It’s literally the last sentence of his post.

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IceBreak t1_j9aw34s wrote

Not since they used a home button.

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