Romeo9594 t1_j9rvwej wrote
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Until under screen sensors and cameras improve, I don't think Apple can offer a camera and FaceID in just a hole punch
SpecialNose9325 t1_j9sn6gn wrote
But we did solve it, with ultrasonic fingerprint scanners and holepunch cameras. Apple decided FaceID was their next big move, and then backpedalled but couldnt straight up remove FaceID, so now they are stuck trying to reintroduce TouchID without the backlash
MikeDubbz t1_j9rwy0l wrote
I mean my Galaxy can unlock with my face ID with just the small dot. Perhaps it's not as sophisticated as Apple's Face ID tracking? I dunno, but no one but me has been able to get in my phone with their face, so it's certainly doing it's job as far as my needs are concerned.
Romeo9594 t1_j9rxwj2 wrote
Apples FaceID is indeed more sophisticated than the Galaxy in order to make it both more secure and more reliable, as well as enable it to work under more conditions. Such as in a completly dark room without the need to increase the phone brightness
From facing camera vs. an IR projector and receiver are wildly different things when it comes to facial recognition
MikeDubbz t1_j9ry4dw wrote
Honestly, I'll take the less sophisticated Android tech over the Apple version if it means I get the hole punch over the oval. It's not like the Android tech is failing me in any way on this matter.
Romeo9594 t1_j9ryttj wrote
I mean that's cool and all, but the Apple/Pixel approach is just objectively better, more reliable, more secure, and works under more circumstances and there's currently no way of fitting it into a hole punch is the only point I was making. It's nice that the 2013 approach to facial recognition is all you need (my S4 in highschool used the same setup) but that's not the case for everyone
MikeDubbz t1_j9rz8ab wrote
Well if I were prone to losing my phone, I might be more worried about it's security. But the fingerprint and face scanning work great, and my 15 years of having smartphones has never resulted in any of my shit getting broken into or stolen.
I totally get why people who are careless might be more worried about having the latest and greatest protection, but the reality is, most people should do more than great without losing sleep with what modern Androids offer.
Romeo9594 t1_j9rzt1w wrote
My favorite part is how you've focused on just the security and left the increased reliability and responsiveness completely untouched lol
Again, an IR solution is just better across the board man. It's why Windows Hello doesn't certify webcam only solutions, and why extra hardware is worth it unless your single issue is aesthetics. It's nice having facial recognition that doesn't need to blind you in the dark to work
MikeDubbz t1_j9s02hz wrote
We are talking about the dumb little notch the camera takes up right? How isn't my Android one reliable or responsive? Is it not working immediately every time like I thought it was? It's not like I have to rescan my face or finger every time, gets it right the first time, every time. Very confused.
carpemydick t1_j9s0jrg wrote
we can tell you’re very confused. let’s just end it here
MikeDubbz t1_j9s0t4g wrote
Well that seems like a needless insult. I wasn't trying to make you feel dumb or bad or anything silly like that just because you prefer the oval, I'm just trying to properly understand your argument. Which as far as I can tell, relies on my ONLY relying on face ID to login. I do both, face and finger, so I can use the finger in the dark, no need to blind myself or whatever ridiculous scenario you were trying to imagine up to prove that the oval is worth it.
PVTheBearJew t1_j9ty9uf wrote
Dude I own a galaxy phone, don't want to trade it for an iPhone like ever, but please stop arguing about how Samsungs face recognition is superior to apples in any way, it is not. Even if it works for you and me, FaceID is superior in every metric.
bmobitch t1_j9s5jgj wrote
that’s a valid stance. i’m glad it works for you with the combo of both. i prefer just face ID so i’m okay with the oval. i don’t find it intrusive anyway. whatever works for each person. sorry you’re being downvoted. i think it previously seemed like you didn’t understand the difference. i thought that but i see that’s not true. i’ll upvote to even out lol
Romeo9594 t1_j9s13x1 wrote
Well, see my use case of using it in the dark and the phone needing to increase brightness to maybe work vs. an IR projector just working regardless
And 2D imaging is easier to fool and 3D. That's just like a fact all you need to do is think about for a sec to prove, and can google if you want further verification
Not only that but in other poor lighting (dim, bright, odd shadows) conditions 2D fails significantly more often than 3D
It's like super neet 2013 tech apparently works flawlessly 100% for the time for you. But that is not the majority experience and most Android users don't even bother with 2D facial recognition due to the issues in reliability and responsiveness, let alone diminished security. Some Pixel users being the outliers since they have proper facial recognition
JustCloudy t1_j9s1s8w wrote
Sometimes I get amazed when I wake up in the middle of the night to pick up my phone and it unlocks automatically with FaceID for me. Would definitely much prefer the convenience than a few more pixels in that area
MikeDubbz t1_j9s1ua2 wrote
So you're just ignoring the fact that you can have both face id and finger id at the same time, like I already mentioned? I've never had to turn on any lights or anything silly like that to login to my phone with a biometric in the dark.
Like OK, if you ONLY want to rely on logging in with your face, then yeah I guess an iPhone might be your best bet, but I know I'm far from alone in preferring to have both face and touch id settings active.
If my phone ever failed to log me in with my face or finger, then I might maybe understand why one would opt for the oval, but as things stand, it just makes no sense to me.
Romeo9594 t1_j9s3csk wrote
The only reason I'd use fingerprint over FaceID is if I'm wearing a mask, but those days are behind us and FaceID also works with a mask anyway because it's able to
Fingerprint scanners don't work with my touch-friendly gloves that I do still wear, though
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