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Classic_Cream_4792 t1_jarkasj wrote
Do these robot dogs clean dishes and fold clothes? Cause I gotta need for one of those taking over my home chores… who cares about autonomous cars! I want a dog that does my laundry and dishes!!!
noada21 t1_jarkg8q wrote
I can see various uses for them like checking suspected IEDs or roughly clearing a building to make sure there’s no surprises. But i think it would still be a while before any kind of lethal weapons are mounted or used on them
Lost-Citron-1099 t1_jarl41d wrote
Wonder if they’ll test them out in Ukraine
Rainbow-Death t1_jarlkvg wrote
Replace dog for another name and we are now going back on time 🎇
WardenEdgewise t1_jarlyl1 wrote
Instead of a robot dog, wouldn’t it be better to design a robot bear, or a robot wolverine?
SIRT72 t1_jarm0bg wrote
SkyNet coming
ba11sD33P t1_jarmdt8 wrote
Every day, Black Mirror becomes less fictional.
diacewrb OP t1_jarmgf1 wrote
They have already started work on armed robot dogs.
https://futurism.com/sniper-rifle-robot-dog
And they can even be flown in via another drone
https://www.businessinsider.com/china-machine-gun-mounted-robot-dog-black-mirror-2022-10?r=US&IR=T
ProfessionalMeal2407 t1_jarmhs2 wrote
You know what’s cheaper than a robot dog? A dog.
You know what’s cheaper than a big robot dog meant for carrying things? A donkey.
Dryandrough t1_jarmutf wrote
Imagine reinventing a donkey.
Atomsteel t1_jarmybq wrote
How long until we see these cute little guys working in airports and at events as indoctrination and then every single day as an armed police force?
takeitinblood3 t1_jarn5kb wrote
Jman50k t1_jarnn42 wrote
A Robot cat would never work for The Man, just sayin’.
Annual-Cheesecake374 t1_jarnnky wrote
Sorta. Dogs, and donkeys, need water, food, and shelter pretty frequently. A robot will need maintenance but the depth and frequency will not be frequent (or at least can be designed to not be frequent). Also, if your dog breaks their leg there is a considerable amount of time for the dog to heal. A robots leg could be made to be replaceable in a matter of minutes.
The upfront cost of a dog (or donkey) is considerably low compared to a robot but at a point in the not-too-distant future, the accumulated cost for a robot would be less.
SonUnforseenByFrodo t1_jarnsur wrote
And it's all due to the Millenials...
Justforthenuews t1_jaro2nw wrote
Depends on the use case, and materials required
diacewrb OP t1_jaroa4e wrote
A robot cat would be giving orders just a like regular cat.
Classic_Cream_4792 t1_jaroif8 wrote
A cat. Meow that isn’t funny. Get it. Cat or pu… I mean you get and so do I. I had one of those but these modern ladies. I honestly think the push of women working is a big plunder of our society. There is nothing wrong with making a house a home for kids and pets and a family to thrive but instead we all think we need to work and earn money and chase an American dream
diacewrb OP t1_jarojhx wrote
A robot bear would be too Russian though.
diacewrb OP t1_jaron3d wrote
Sounds like something out of Metal Gear Solid 4.
Justforthenuews t1_jarowgj wrote
If we’re lucky, soon. Cause we already have an armed police force present pretty much everywhere, and they have regularly demonstrated that you can never be sure when interacting with one if you are in danger or not. At least with bots you can actually see what it was thinking when it opens fire on someone, rather than “I smelled pot in the air”, “I thought they were reaching for a gun”, etc.
Justforthenuews t1_jarp6g5 wrote
Yeah, based on their logic, we should go back to ox ploughed fields.
FriedRamen13 t1_jarpim3 wrote
Robot cocaine bear
Khourieat t1_jarpj02 wrote
Robot honey badger.
mokeyss t1_jarqxxh wrote
A donkey needs a person with them. A robot does not.
TheAres1999 t1_jarrjpg wrote
Oh no. I saw this episode of Black Mirror!
WardenEdgewise t1_jarrjx4 wrote
That’s the real question. Who would win, robot Wolverine or robot honey badger?
MaximumShitcock t1_jars7vt wrote
One day, they‘ll be running the Navy!
ergobearsgo t1_jarsgrj wrote
A stock Boston Dynamics Spot robot has a runtime of 90 minutes. Of course the battery can be swapped out, but in a standard work day that would be six enormous batteries. For the sake of argument let's say that the military model has two batteries to run at the same time. That's a minimum of three battery swaps a day and someone who has to carry all of those around. News flash, the operators also need food and water and are going to have that on them anyway. A donkey can also eat and drink pretty much anywhere in the world that's not covered in snow or sand.
Edit: each Spot battery is 5.2kg/~11.5lbs. With two batteries on the robot and four in reserve, that's 20.8kg/46lbs of weight to support a robot that can only carry a 14kg/30lb payload to begin with. Each battery is also the size of a mid-range quadcopter, meaning that someone's job on the team is just dealing with the drone and carrying its luggage. All for a drone that can't smell, can barely hear, and can barely carry anything. Might be able to provide early warning if it happens to spot someone using FLIR from two feet off the ground. Maybe. This is just one tiny slice of the taxpayer's pie being served up to the military industrial complex on a newer, shinier platter with nothing but prop pieces to show for it.
UltimateGammer t1_jarsmog wrote
I think comparing these things to dogs kind of sets them in a certain light.
They aren't dogs, they won't be used as you'd use a dog, they don't have the same capabilities as a dog.
Seiren- t1_jart9ju wrote
Anyone Remember «Big Dog» ?
Boston Dynamics had this large quadruped robot like 10 years ago that they abruptly stopped showing videos of. I wonder why.
DevoidHT t1_jartn63 wrote
There are robotic mules. Robots designed to carry equipment, water, food, etc over rough terrain.
Dryandrough t1_jaru573 wrote
Me who has worked both as an IT and Engineer in the Navy.
What do I know lol?
KyurMeTV t1_jarue1y wrote
Right, but that would cut into the CIA’s domestic distribution supply. Can’t have that.
SushiRex t1_jarurc3 wrote
wp skynet
Bobtheguardian22 t1_jarv50r wrote
cant wait to enlist again as a robot dog operator.
like playing call of duty with a gunned up machine robot dog.
Bootsix t1_jarv8sq wrote
As a huge fan of real dogs, I support this.
Equivalent-Chest5383 t1_jarvc8c wrote
Did anyone see the dogs dancing during Jason Derulo’s Super Bowl pregame show?
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eheun t1_jarvhch wrote
Kinda badass ngl - but the ethical implications of video games with irl consequences?
Duckbilling t1_jarydtj wrote
#ROBOT LLAMA
LystAP t1_jarzfvh wrote
r/combatfootage got a good preview of what’s coming.
nevermore2627 t1_jarzs2c wrote
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Bobtheguardian22 t1_jas0561 wrote
that sounds like a problem for future us.
JRBehr t1_jas06hw wrote
Damn, that’s a cool headline
Annual-Cheesecake374 t1_jas0kzh wrote
I agree with you about the Boston dynamics robot but that doesn’t mean all robots in the future would be under the same restrictions. Though, we do use robots to conduct bomb detection and disposal meaning robots don’t have to be on (or maybe reduced power requirements) until they are needed. This robot, however, is (nearly) useless to the military.
Another thing to consider is training. We can train animals to do lots of pretty cool things but a robot would be easier to train and be more accurate in commands.
Ring_Lo_Finger t1_jas17jl wrote
They've to find ways to compensate for poor enlistments and it'll be suffering more after Biden's college debt help. Free college tuition at the cost of enlistment isn't that attractive anymore.
hashtagHAARP t1_jas1wd3 wrote
brings new meaning to “release the hounds”
The-God-Of-Memez t1_jas305e wrote
Hopefully one day advancement of military will lead to destroying the other countries toys instead of killing the people
Lietenantdan t1_jas3fhu wrote
Definitely not looking forward to IRL metal head. Couldn’t we get IRL San Junipero instead
Lietenantdan t1_jas3n8v wrote
I don’t think people should have ever had to possibly risk there lives to afford college.
Sweaty-Feedback-1482 t1_jas3oaa wrote
Aren’t we already there with drone operators?
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VaVaValentine t1_jas3q4o wrote
Who does the cocaine, operator or the bear, or both togethear
kookykoko t1_jas3utg wrote
Have you worked on the robot donkeys?
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neyfrota t1_jas44wm wrote
Before read anything, i remember AMEE from red planet.
mmmTaxFraud t1_jas68dw wrote
Black mirror is truly becoming a real thing
ausnee t1_jas71y2 wrote
Dogs are more loyal than bears or wolverines
Xboxwun t1_jas7g2g wrote
Current us*
karangoswamikenz t1_jas90rj wrote
Look up ghost robotics
Bobtheguardian22 t1_jasb9wp wrote
but not right this moment us.
AggravatedBasalt t1_jasbhp4 wrote
Wasn't this the episode that so many people hated?
savage_slurpie t1_jasc5af wrote
Been there for more than a decade. People just don’t like to think about the ethical implications of using drones.
Dryandrough t1_jascjap wrote
Have you?
I understand how the maintenance program is trash.
Le redditors specialists
kookykoko t1_jasd07f wrote
So what do you really know? Maintenance programs are garbage across the DOD so no new knowledge brought there.
StoryAndAHalf t1_jasey6l wrote
Weird, I expected the robot dogs to have at least 1 arm.
The_Great_Xandinie t1_jasgqzr wrote
Hopefully this doesn’t turn out like that black mirror episode: https://youtu.be/BDP9jA6k_UE
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goliathfasa t1_jasjmhj wrote
Or as George Carlin called them: Nintendo pilots.
tom-8-to t1_jasjomy wrote
I think we are going back to the Spartans and other elite military fighters who had servants to go into battle with them to carry weapons, assist the soldier during battle, or to pull out injured soldiers, as their only task. Read your history, it’s back!
gitarzan t1_jasl4c4 wrote
I can imagine an army commander at a battlefield full of robotic dogs, and then he yells, “SIC BALLS!”
Parametric_Or_Treat t1_jasl8uu wrote
Yeah people never caught onto what “GI” stood for him the “GI Bill”
Parametric_Or_Treat t1_jasles1 wrote
I swear to God if I have to stand and salute a robot dog veteran before an NFL game as a robot R and B Singer sings America the Beautiful I will lose it
MinneAppley t1_jasmhj4 wrote
Military personnel are already having emotional difficulties because they bond with robots that don’t look like dogs.
What might having robots who are more like man’s best friend feel like?
thecrowing77 t1_jasp0m1 wrote
holds pistol in space
Always has been.
CatSidekick t1_jaspyj2 wrote
Robot Wolverine
Alimbiquated t1_jasqznw wrote
I can imagine something like that happening on the Moon or Mars. Because these places are so hostile to human habitation, a space colony would probably have a long first phase where robots build the colony before the astronauts arrive in any numbers. If it came to war, the robots would fight it out among themselves.
Knyfe-Wrench t1_jasuzn9 wrote
>robot wolverine
I'm the bleepst there is at what I bloop
Ring_Lo_Finger t1_jasx1qp wrote
Hope GOP lawmakers side with you but such is life.
19 GOP Lawmakers write to President Biden that his college tuition forgiveness program is hurting US Army recruitments.
No-Fly-6043 t1_jasxa5a wrote
I mean I play 5D chess with multidimensional time travel irl, and it is/was/going to be fine
Grezzinate t1_jasyqt5 wrote
I’ve played generation zero, I know how aggressive those dogs are going to be.
EpicGlacier- t1_jaszbv4 wrote
Not the navy!
6fingerartguy t1_jat0ajm wrote
If it's the operator I am so joining the army! Hey Rick, watch me make this bear shit in the woods!! After I maul everyone in the mess hall.
6fingerartguy t1_jat0crt wrote
Honey badger, duh .
mayoronczka t1_jat12oh wrote
Holy shit I googled it... Looks like something that would chase you in SOMA O_o
WardenEdgewise t1_jat1ayh wrote
Really? You probably prefer a catapult to a trebuchet as well.
BabylonDrifter t1_jat2smv wrote
We need to transition the A-10 warthog from an airplane to a giant robot BRRRRRRRRT doggie.
MarbylZino t1_jat2ykp wrote
No, they are not.
MinorFragile t1_jat40tl wrote
Probably not, but ok
DaylanDaylan t1_jat643g wrote
I was thinking about how they could train them to find and bring wounded people to safety like the “surrender drones”
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[deleted] t1_jatdgut wrote
Robot sharks with fricken laser beams
bradland t1_jatdte2 wrote
How is mounting a gun on one of these any different than mounting missiles on a drone?
ELFBANE t1_jatjo0i wrote
Because they developed the tech into spot, the same way you don't see people flexing the fact they have an iPhone 5. I'm also pretty sure that BD is now owned by a Korean company and not fond of people putting weapons on their robots.
ELFBANE t1_jatk96z wrote
Spot from Boston dynamics can technically do that
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ShadowDV t1_jatm3kb wrote
“robot wolverine”
Then you would need to build a robot Jim Harbaugh to coach it, and it would choke in every important firefight.
Easy_Kill t1_jatnfa5 wrote
Meh. Catapults are superior. A1 with nothing but SRM6s in close range will wreck any treb you can find.
bradland t1_jatqek2 wrote
They didn’t abruptly stop showing videos of big dog. They developed big dog — which was big because the technology wasn’t very compact yet — into this product, then sold to Hyundai. They still produce tons of videos.
S-Go t1_jatszla wrote
I wish i could play that again for the first time.
Moneyshot_ITF t1_jatwh8y wrote
And US Police soon
rolgelthorp t1_jaty2vl wrote
dog (wanananana) robot dog (wanananana)
yuxulu t1_jatzx2q wrote
Settle international disagreement with battlebots.
f_d t1_jau0fgo wrote
Bears have drawbacks
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/LoveDeathAndRobotsKillTeamKill
>A squad of overly masculine American soldiers come across a CIA experiment gone wrong: specifically, a nigh-unstoppable cyborg grizzly bear.
[deleted] t1_jau4y6k wrote
One step closer to Terminators. Oh Skynet, hurry up and save us already!
Assassin_by_Birth t1_jau65a6 wrote
Why would they need you to operate?
Bobtheguardian22 t1_jau9a0h wrote
to tell the AI whats a school bus and whats an enemy combatant!😥
A_Gent_4Tseven t1_jaudahk wrote
Meps is wild these days… two robots just got waivers for “eye sight” and then the same old man that’s looked at everyone’s asshole in the service(because it’s the same guy) told one it had haemorrhoids. /j
A_Gent_4Tseven t1_jaudfw3 wrote
I do think a robot version of Weapon X could be possible… but should we??!
Osteojo t1_jauf031 wrote
The episode of Mirror Mirror with robot dogs scared the daylights out of me. It haunts me still and I watched it 5 years ago at least!
duglarri t1_jauhhfe wrote
We will know they are ubiquitous when they start being called by their short-form name: "Rogs".
Assassin_by_Birth t1_jauip19 wrote
Hahaha fair enough
msoats t1_jaujk9d wrote
I really just don’t understand what is happening right now. This is crazy
FlamingTrollz t1_jaujvzg wrote
Ogediah t1_jaukjsr wrote
What will the poor do when they can’t even become a soldier?
BGAL1120 t1_jaulo2v wrote
They’re pretty cute when they’re robot puppies
squarybuttholes t1_jaum0br wrote
Nobody likes to do coke alone, not even semi autonomous killer robot dogs bro
cranktheguy t1_jaus7lb wrote
Or just a drone? They can go over any terrain.
Nomad_86 t1_jav4clk wrote
Anybody else see that episode of Black Mirror? Lol
jjj49er t1_jav7o6m wrote
What are we going to do with all the unemployed dogs that have had their jobs replaced by robots?
Afferbeck_ t1_javbi3h wrote
Seems like AI couldn't do a worse job at that than the humans have been
Paradox68 t1_javd2vs wrote
Oh god I saw the robot bear in that one anime and all I can say is ABORT. Do NOT create robot bears. Avoid at all cost.
Catlenfell t1_javo7tl wrote
Now we know what will be clearing out homeless encampments in a decade or so.
bingybunny t1_javqlbl wrote
my bones are made of Adam Ant
nocondo4me t1_jaw0eem wrote
A self guided missile is a drone
GhettoFinger t1_jawlxdd wrote
That’s not what the AI’s role would be. The human will make the decision to fire at something or someone, but they wouldn’t need you to operate its movement. So you tell the AI robot dog to kill that thing, then it moves, aims and fires on its own. So the human is making the determination what is a school bus and and enemy combatant, not the AI.
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ZantaraLost t1_jbhhnpn wrote
Honestly I don't ever see American police forces EVER being onboard with robot dogs.
Always on recording, on par if not better than canine noses with drug detection that can't give false positives on command...
[deleted] t1_jbiyv9w wrote
The use of drones really hasn't changed anything from an ethics standpoint. Pilots dropping bombs from drones is ethically and practically no different than pilots dropping bombs from bombers and fighter jets. In all those scenarios, the pilot is using inputs from various types of data to make the decision to drop the bomb and is making that decision from a perspective of complete safety from enemy attack.
The real change in the calculus of ethics will happen when drones have the ability to decide whether or not to kill a human target. By "decide", I don't mean automatically running a program to determine whether or not the target fits a preprogrammed target profile (even if that target profile is determined through machine learning, even self-trained machine learning). Instead, I mean "decide" in the sense of actual generalized AI where the drone, on its own initiative, makes the conscious decision whether or not to kill a human target. We're a very long way off from that.
[deleted] t1_jbj014r wrote
They seem perfect to use as rescue tools. Their small size, agility, balance, etc. makes them perfect for use in rescue situations where there are people trapped in ruble (like after various natural disasters) or potentially people who are trapped in positions where it would be too dangerous to send a person (as in you could send these into a burning building to look for trapped people rather than sending in firemen if it's not known whether people are in fact inside and alive). I'd love to see a rescue line of these developed with various attachments like a jaws of life, fire extinguisher, oxygen tank, watercraft for navigating flood areas to deliver medical and emergency supplies, etc.
GreenDemonClean t1_jargsg9 wrote
This was always the plan.