helpusdrzaius t1_ivug926 wrote
Reply to comment by jnemesh in Micro Center Prices RTX 4080 Close to RTX 4090's MSRP | Want to buy an RTX 4080? Prepare your bank account. by chrisdh79
to me it's nuts people are spending $1k on a graphics card. it's a shame the industry has gone this way. but I get it, people will spend that money, and nvidia and amd both are more than willing to give them something to spend it for.
jnemesh t1_ivuhhlc wrote
Someone needs to tell nVidia that the crypto rush is over and they can go back to normal pricing now...
Honestly, I don't care if they DO have a performance advantage...nVidia's anti-consumer actions over the past few years pushed me away from EVER considering one of their products!
dustofdeath t1_ivuj9dl wrote
It's that or nothing. This is what happens if you have essentially no competition. Two companies is not a competition - it's a mutual jackoff.
The wafer/chip is likely 1/5th of the GPU final price.
beefcat_ t1_ivvo2yk wrote
> It's that or nothing.
What are you talking about? There are lots of GPUs in prices ranging from $200 all the way up to those obnoxious prices.
There have always been obnoxiously overpriced options for those looking to stroke their e-peen. It used to be SLI builds, then Titan cards, now xx90.
ackillesBAC t1_ivvl8gw wrote
Hey Intel is trying don't count them out. Honestly though I just seen a review saying the Intel gpus have almost no slowdown when Ray tracing
routerg0d t1_ivvo7w8 wrote
I’ve seen people do ray traces on 386s in high school. Took overnight to generate, but the point is. Intel has a lot of data on this process over those years. GPU makers have just only delved into ray tracing. This is the 3rd generation and frankly both have again made incremental improvements rather than producing a breakthrough product. Perhaps to keep selling GPUs.
ackillesBAC t1_ivvxo9w wrote
Path tracing is the new holly grail. Abit different then ray tracing, alot more complex, and physically accurate.
The big push now for dlss and other ai based upscaling I think is silly, why fake a high res picture when you could use ai to accelerate path tracing and other raw features and render at true high res and high performance.
Dlss reminds me of 3d tv's, and 200 Hz tv's, just a sales gimmick. Which is what Ray tracing currently is to.
Reliv3 t1_ivxpy1w wrote
I never heard of path tracing before. Do you have any recommended reading I can do to learn about it?
ackillesBAC t1_ivyhh0m wrote
jnemesh t1_ivyi4g9 wrote
upscaling lets you render at much lower resolutions and still maintain most of the quality of rendering native. I am NOT on board with DLSS 3's frame generation BS, though. But the ability for a mid range card to render in "4k" with raytracing is a huge benefit!
ackillesBAC t1_ivynah7 wrote
Ya it's good for low end I agree with that, but should be avoided for high end. If I spend 1000+ on a video card I want high performance and true high quality.
You don't see photographers asking for upscaling, you do see photographers asking for higher resolution, less compression, hdr, and ai for auto focus and other things.
I think highend photography and highend graphics have alot in common and the graphics is guided by photography
kyuubixchidori t1_ivwaxor wrote
The thing is you can now get a 3070 for $400 used. That’ll handle 4k gaming to 99.9% of peoples standards. $1000 used to be the standard price I’d think of a decent computer. now $1000 will get you a solid state storage 4k or vr gaming machine.
now the guys that want to go way overboard can. and those speeds will trickle down each generation. I’ll enjoy buying a 4090 or amd equivalent in a 2 years for $500-700. and that’ll last me another 5 years.
restform t1_ivx2sqm wrote
2nd hand cards suss me out a lot tho.
WhatLikeAPuma751 t1_ivwko72 wrote
I’m over here on a 12 year old nvidia card waiting for that 3070 to hit $200 🤣
xseannnn t1_ivvfct7 wrote
Have you seen food prices lately? Its not just the gfx industry.
buzzysale t1_ivyksrk wrote
I spent $1500 on a 4MB graphics adapter (Fujitsu sapphire 2) when I was 16. It was 1995. Do you know how many lawns I had to mow? The industry hasn’t gone this way, it’s the way it’s been. Consumers are just dumb 16 year olds that value the dumbest things.
D-6Hunter t1_ivurte5 wrote
1k isn’t what it used to be though 😅
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