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TangoJager t1_iwu1csh wrote

The Brussels Effect spreads.


Sam1515024 OP t1_iwujeau wrote

What is it?


AmargithHuld t1_iwumdml wrote

The EU enforces a standard, and it spreads to other markets, either coz its more economical for the companies and/or coz other countries have had the same frustrations.


Sam1515024 OP t1_iwumoqv wrote

India does follow EU policy in technology as much as possible, so maybe it’s right


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SadMaverick t1_iwwb18y wrote

I think the primary motivation for India is the dumping of old tech as mentioned in the article:

>A key concern for India is that once the EU makes the shift, obsolete phones and equipment could be dumped here, a second official said, requesting anonymity.


Specific_Main3824 t1_iwx8k2g wrote

Not at all. Old tech will sell out and will always be available second hand in any market. Every cheap device has already switched to Type C some time ago, so the vast majority of devices available in India already are Type C. India will still get a lions share of old and used devices. However, that's fine. They are second-hand and will have no issues being sold. The change is to save people money, make it easy so people can share chargers, and create far less waste. The rules are very late in the game, 10 years ago would have been more useful.


Playfair99999 t1_iwxxg3i wrote

But unfortunately for us, the type of configuration that the C type comes with, only became mainstream in the last 5 years. But it's still better than 5 years later or something.


Specific_Main3824 t1_iwywqp2 wrote

It's the same in Australia, type C only 5 years, still LOTS of people have devices with Micro USB, however it's changing very fast, more people have type C than than Micro USB. When Apple changes, there will be a lot of angry people, but it will be better eventually. At least until something else better comes along.


Playfair99999 t1_iwyx23s wrote

I think the decision against Apple was rather a necessary one. I mean they charge filthy money for a charger just to make it "exclusive" or something. And the way people act with Apple products, like a herd, they were bound to buy that too. Plus this also prevents cable waste to an extent as well, as now C type can be used for multiple products.


Specific_Main3824 t1_ix1sbxc wrote

I don't think the cost is filthy IF the quality matched the price, however their cables are really low quality, better than a lot of aftermarket cables, but Apple set the bar really low. I'd pay US$50 for a cable if i knew it would last for near forever. I am so glad it's going USB C (not that USB C is that great. It handles moisture badly, and it can burn out just from high humidity). But at least now everything will at least be the same 😀 Apple's Lightning connector is a little superior in robustness, but it's no longer sufficient for today's tech.


Rasayana85 t1_iwx3ju8 wrote

Why request anonymity? Is he affraid to be promoted?


Kevin_Jim t1_iwumqnf wrote

It’s the natural course of action. The EU is the biggest economic bloc on the planet. Everyone wants a piece of it, and since they make it for Europe it makes sense to sell it as is for everything else.

The only thing that hasn’t stuck is GDPR, outside of the EU.


tylerr514 t1_iwv4vqj wrote

American software dev here;

We're slowly adopting GDPR compliant practices (even for American-only services).

Our main barrier is for California and New York to adopt a very similar policy, then our federal government will eventually follow.


RandomUsername12123 t1_iwvs25a wrote

Isn't easy to just adopt the more stringent one and call it a day?


ValinorDragon t1_iwwhapd wrote

Sure, put the most stringent practices are not so easily monetizable/exploitable. That is the whole point of the GDPR, prevent abusive (but profitable) practices among other things.


Izeinwinter t1_iwveav3 wrote

The EU has very thoroughly thought-out regulations for.. pretty much everything. Lets assume you are the government of a successful African nation and local buisness people are making noises that they would like to start some chemical factories so that they can turn the output of some local mines into dyes and export those instead of just the raw minerals.

Do you

a: Let them build chemical plants with no regulation whatsoever?

b: Try to find enough local experts to write sensible regulations at the same time your local tycoons are on a hiring spree?

c: Run the EU regs - that have conveniently already been translated into at least 3 of your four official languages - through a copier?

C is a really popular answer.


PancAshAsh t1_iwvwmcu wrote

You forgot D, which is just C but you accept bribes to allow A.


Izeinwinter t1_iwyyyo0 wrote

Part of the point of adopting EU standards wholesale is that many firms will not try to get out of them by bribery or lobbying.

Obeying local laws that the locals wrote themselves is extra work for the corporate machinery - If your officials are corruptible they might get bribed to avoid that workload. If the local law is "EU directive copied" and the corporation is already operating in the EU a whole lot of the time they will just whole-sale recreate the european operation, safety efforts, smoke stack filters and all. "Build a plant just like the one in Cologne, except with more airconditioning" is not a lot of extra work, and doesn't carry the risk of a pr disaster down the road.


Rasayana85 t1_iwx40kp wrote

I fucking hate printers. If there is any way to avoid them, then thats the way for me.


Enough_Map_8322 t1_iwzydkh wrote

I'm still on the fence about this, on paper I love the idea but governments move slow and usb c is already old. How long until something better comes out and I can't use it by law? Then will they just update the law again to include the newest charger 5 years after its release thus excluding the charger after that? I want the fastest tech always I just don't buy the thing with the shit charger when available. Maybe a law making is so you don't use old dated tech but that's encouraging waste.


epanchin t1_ixcasgd wrote

The simplest solution is to force companies to set up a board funded by them which decides on the standard.

imho the next solution will be fully wireless anyway.