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Golden_Lynel t1_iyjqf0u wrote

Yeah, I wish we led more with the idea of efficiency in engineering CPUs

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BusinessBear53 t1_iykhia2 wrote

My guess is it's just the way the companies have headed due to their main products.

Apple mainly deals in their phones and tablets while still making some computers on the side so naturally they'd want to invest more into their mobile platforms where cooling is passive. Thermal and power efficiency is the primary focus while trying to bump up speed at the same time.

Intel on the other hand deals with systems that have cooling systems. Servers and desktop coolers get pretty beefy so can handle a lot. Raw performance wins and thermals are slightly less important. Sure they have CPU's for laptops and NUCs which lack good cooling but those tend to get lower specced CPU's.

I built my new PC last week and saw that the trend in CPU's has done a 180. My first PC was from 2013 and buying an unlocked CPU to overclock for better performance was the norm. Power pull and thermals be damned.

These days the unlocked CPU's boost themselves to a pre set limit but pull big power and generate heaps of heat. Now some people undervolt to try keep thermals under control without sacrificing too much performance.

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SoarinPastTheMoon t1_iyjqn45 wrote

I really hope so man. Been running windows arm on my new MacBook and since I have programs that are x86 dependent, the virtualization layer in windows arm is pretty inefficient compared to Rosetta. Even then, my fans don’t turn on.

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Golden_Lynel t1_iyjqvj3 wrote

Linux

(I know its a meme but I use gentoo btw)

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SoarinPastTheMoon t1_iyjr3b1 wrote

I would if I didn’t rely on windows only excel extensions and school specific windows programs but looks like we’re getting gpu acceleration with Asahi very soon.

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swisstraeng t1_iyk4au1 wrote

It's not the efficiency, but a different architecture. The main issue is that, all software made on windows wouldn't be compatible if you change the CPU architecture.

Yeah, all CPUs use the X86 architecture. Or more modern versions that are backward compatible.

Apple's M1 and newer CPUs are not using X86, instead they use the same architecture as our smartphones. Which is more energy efficient, but costs more to produce if you want the same computing power.

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gredr t1_iyk6cuv wrote

If only the companies who spend (and make) billions designing and producing CPUs realized that we would like more efficient CPUs!

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