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I don’t always crash, but when I do, iCrash. Stay nerdy my friends. Lol

Oh look another 'article' from an Apple website saving someone's life. Propaganda much?

You mean the article that clearly links to the reddit post where this was first reported?

https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/zcvsvy/thank_you_apple_for_sos/

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Yeah, I'm sure it was the crash detection and not the fact that his wife suddenly screamed while driving and the conversation stopped suddenly. And it wasn't a matter of life and death, the crash was light according to the article.

>He was on a phone call with her when he heard her scream — and the line went dead.

from the article.

Perhaps if the iPhone hadn’t distracted her while driving she wouldn’t have been in an accident.

It would have still been the crash detection guiding him to the GPS location of the crash.

Honestly, these kinds of features make me almost want to finally buy an apple device, but then I recall I don't want to create an apple account.

That's a fair point. It's a good feature.

This just in, news outlet reporting news about the namesake of said news outlet. What has this world come to.

someone swerved into her lane and hit her but you would have had to read the article to know that

>... are all built with advanced sensors for car crash detection

Not exactly that advanced...

It was more a dig on apple than anything. It’s true, I didn’t give enough of a horse’s ass to bother reading the apple insider article.

How many other patients was the woman's husband also dealing with that day?

What great input. Thanks

You can thank Reddit’s “you might be interested in this” algorithm

I like how the assumption of the phone "getting to the accident" before the ambulance is somehow the first responder's fault. Stop calling for nonsense and more ambulances would be available for real calls.

ermm….. advanced? really, I find it quite simple… tips fedora

How about stop commenting on articles with Apple and you won’t get this stuff recommended any more

Why not?

LOL so true

Fake.

Can you people please stop being so gullible? The article is literally pointing to a Reddit comment without any sort of further proof.

...you good bud?

Their app store is hyper restrictive.

Not too surprising.

Most 911 contracts that private ambulance services have, allow them at least 15 minutes to respond - depending on the size of the serviced area.

I have iPhone and Android tablet. Problem solved

Okay? Did you want a prize?

I’m just giving a suggestion for someone who made it appear that it was impossible to have the best of both worlds.

Damn ur snarky, who hurt you?

Sure, but it’s a pretty good one still. This isn’t 2010 where you want a new app every day, most people already know what apps they need and every once in a while, might get a new one if it’s popular.

For the 0.01% you can’t get via the App Store, there are “work arounds” already if you need them.

At the end of the day all the app stores kind of suck for some reason or another.

what are u needing that's restricted by the apple app store?

It seems you’ve somehow been convinced that less calls to emergency lines is the solution to the problem.

I’d re-evaluate as to whether you’ve been lead to believe that because of facts or because of sensationalism.

Pornhub app and probably some kodi variant for pirated content.

I’m surprised people care that much about apps nowadays. I’ve definitely tapered down from years ago where I was going crazy with phone games and just pretty much only use social media apps nowadays.

I remember I used to be crazy with stuff like widgets and themes when I had an android or jailbroken iphones but I realized I can’t be bothered to do any of that anymore.

Who made it appear that it was impossible?

You :(

34 years as a paramedic led me to that conclusion.

Hey another one of these "news" articles.

Appleinsider sure is a respectable news source.. oh and it's based on a reddit post?

This one certainly passes the smell test. Quality journalism achieved

"He was on a phone call with her when he heard her scream — and the line went dead."

"Another driver had been distracted and crossed into traffic, hitting his wife head-on"

seems like she was distracted

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Maybe you should have retired at 33 years to have less jade. Former first responder here too. Leave before it gets you to this point of view from a Reddit post.

How the hell is this even considered journalism? They could have at least contacted him for a comment.

I-see what you did there. Nerds unite.

Edit-dang Apple autocorrect.

Yeah, most people nowadays have had phones for long enough that there isn't much novelty to messing around with apps or widgets.

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Personally, even though Apple has mostly caught up with respect to hardware, there are still quite a few software features Apple does not support:

• FireFox mobile adblocker
• Game emulation
• Root access
• Support for more USB devices
• Always-On-Display tweaks
• YouTube Vanced

If they fixed some of these, it'd be a much closer decision.

Oh yay, more apple marketing. Wow! Are they that desperate to sell overpriced phones? I guess they need this to justify their overpriced phones... 🤬🤦🏻👎🏻 Crash detection came standard on pixel phones 4 years ago...

You’ve obviously never worked in a hospital or in the medical field.

People call for an ambulance when their toe is stubbed. But, there was one day that always stuck out to me, there was a woman who came in, a nut job who wears a helmet to walk around outside, because she tripped and fell on her arm. It wasn’t broken, it was sprained, scraped and a bit bloody, but no worse than an average afternoon for an elementary school boy. She claimed to be in 10/10 chest pain though, so she was brought back, her only issue was the arm and she wanted to be seen quicker.

Meanwhile, waiting there, was this woman who was like 6 months pregnant and had lupus, going through some major complications, being carried back and forth to the bathroom by her Boyfriend or husband. Occasionally screaming out in pain; And an 18 year old girl, who’d been hit by a car going 35 mph through a red light who had 2 broken legs, and had been knocked out by the impact, Trying her best to bear with the pain

Those two waited for fucking two hours (at least until the end of my shift) because they told the truth, the helmet nut, was out in less than two hours with only a bandage.

Android also has crash detection.

My "jade" as you call it is well earned and an opinion I am well entitled to. I wanted to make the system better ("We want to hear from you! Tell us what you think") and was ignored. Some due to politics and power struggles between medical directors, chiefs, hospital CEOs etc.... Ironically the very things I spoke of are now starting to be instituted, not because they are more efficient but because of economics. The system simply cannot continue this way anymore. I loved my job up until the day I retired and considered it a privilege to help people. I got angry when I hear a chest pain come up and I was taking you in for an earache at 3am that you were too lazy to call you're doctor about at 3pm. Every medic feels this way eventually, even you, after seeing how horribly run 911 is in this country. Litigation /fear is a big part of it as well. Suffice it to say you don't know me, nor I you, so let's work a shift together and tell me if I'm "jaded". Ad hominem attacks are a sign of a weak argument.

Can’t argue with that.

It wasn’t an attack, it was a post opinion on what could have prevented such jade to keep YOU happier but I can see your point. Not trying to be offensive. Thank you for dedicating your life to your calling. It’s thanks-less at times and gets worse with time.

When I first started in the ED I remember clear as day a nurse who was a FANTASTIC nurse asking someone “when exactly did this become an emergency?” To something that was clearly not an emergency but was presented to the emergency room.

Her nursing was on point. She could work harder than anyone I ever met. Her attitude and jade weren’t. She (thankfully) left shortly thereafter to become the most incredible advocate for change but from a distance so that she didn’t continue to feel angry, frustrated and disappointed in a Brooke system but could continue to use her servants heart with action.

I left front lines for essentially the same reasons. We have all experienced the worst in people if you work for a single moment as a first responder.

But we’ve also seen the best and most selfless acts that the world almost never sees. Being grateful for an additional service that helps response times and assists in locating victims should be celebrated.

I hope you’re proud of what you did and can forgive those that took advantage of services that they abused and weren’t intended to use as they did.

And frankly unlike 2010, you can achieve an app experience w/ mobile sites. You really can do it all w/ an iOS device. Including playing and saving emulated games.

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Well that’s very sad that you’ve taken the view that people should just stop calling.

Clearly not the solution, how about better educating the general public on first aid?

Seriously, this sound fake. I got into a fairly major crash and the iPhone feature was completely useless, didn’t detect it at all.

Completely made that up.

Then you’d know like 20% of patients are the same people on their latest bender and how common wasted 911 calls are.

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Have they fixed the roller coaster issue yet? Heard there was a problem with it accidentally calling an ambulance on people riding roller coasters.

It happens a lot more than people realize. Especially when the watch is in play too. Often in impacts that are require the full support of all the public services, phones will get away from the drivers or passengers. The older button press to alert on the watch way was a sure fire solution to get someone to your exact location quickly. I’ve had patients come into the ER with the watch screen shattered and the phone screen shattered, but the service still worked and they were found in some east jesus knees rural setting in the dark and wreaked.

I’m going to need to look at the statistics since it is something we track (that they were responded to by automated phone services), but it does have a small error margin since our cardio patients with pacemaker/cardioverters/life vests all go home with a 4g monitor. I know that I’ve personally been involved in around 30 calls this year that involved the cellphone being the saving grace in an MVA. Not sure how many going back 5 or 6 (can’t remember when it actually started) years since apple started doing the SOS button press.

That sounds just as fake as the article tbf

I used to be hard core android, but honestly iPhones are just better. No half baked features with a bloat filled OS over it and I Always get the latest updates, the carrier doesn't control them.

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Bonus, when I did the Satellite SOS demo, one of the options is towing and breakdowns, thats useful as fuck.

Customization, apps made by developers with limited budgets, support for all file types, and even apps which aren't allowed on any app store like YouTube Vanced

You should copyright this 😂

Crash detection isn't standard on Pixel phones.

Some Pixel phones in some markets support it

I just play remote steam and call it a day with a pa5 controller via iPhone, iPad and Apple TV

I have an iPhone and two android phones. I turn the android phones on, update them, play with them and then Reminds me why I don’t use them. It’s a 90 days typical cycle.

There are absolutely people who don’t need to call the emergency line. Most of the bulk of the calls we get on a daily basis do not need a ambulance to take them to the ER. If you can drive yourself, you don’t need an ambulance. If it’s not an actual emergency that is threatening your life and you can have someone else drive you, you don’t need to call. There are plenty of situations where even taking an Uber would be better for the system. Most paramedics can’t tell a potentially paying patient “no” so they transport the stupidest shit you’ve ever heard of.

This isn’t even counting fall calls where someone shows up to help pick up an elderly or disabled person who simply can’t get themselves back up from their position. Those at least serve the community in some meaningful way.

It is standard on all pixel phones, just not supported in 3rd world countries. 🤣

Nice marketing apple. Almost had me for a second.

Go start a non apple subreddit then. You’re upset that their stories of tech heroism are coming through to public light.

When other manufacturers have such success they too will make the front page. But please make a subreddit to artificially exclude one of the most innovative forces of our day.

We collectively cut the funding for all journalism. Decided they need to make a profit on their own advertisements or fail. Then complain that what's left is all the dregs of effort 1 ad spot will buy.

We're on the paparazzi financial model for news now. :(

I mean, it is pretty easy to beat an ambulance to the scene especially when you aren’t guaranteed one in most US states

not surprised, ambulances can take a long time to arrive. Cops are always patrolling so they usually get there faster.

Meanwhile, my wife was t-boned by someone running a red light, and the first I heard was when she called me.

Also, if my wife was driving and she screamed and the line went dead, I wouldn’t need crash detection to piece together what happened.

>stories

Well you got that part right. There is no proof of this actually occurring.

yeah that was kind of the point

Or he just did a "find my phone"??

Maybe, but then why write the article?

Also reposting a reddit story on reddit laundered through a magazine who has financial interest in "good" Apple news seems like the real point is to get me to click that link.

You can’t seriously be crediting Apple with “tech heroism” and expecting people to take you seriously in the same comment right? You’re missing an “/s”, right?

Oh I missed the last sentence

https://youtu.be/3ZcLiT6DqYI?t=62

to drive clicks

You can download FireFox and integrate the adblocker into safari (unless we're talking about two different things/situations)

Oh, cool. I didn't know Safari had an adblocker, that's pretty neat. I still don't think that solution allows for Firefox w/ adblocker, which is what I use on desktop / android, so I'd want my data to sync.

It's the ciiiiiiircle of journalism!

create da story denyou cite da story

create da story denyou cite da story

create da story denyou cite da story (and onda wiki)

create da story denyou cite da story (and onda wiki)

By virtue of being published, isn’t it effectively copyrighted already?

your entire first paragraph is just....buy a pixel

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your second paragraph, the Sat stuff is cool

It didn’t say anything about a cop

Honestly, those falls calls and transport calls taking people to dialysis we’re favorite ones to deal with because of that reason. At least you’re providing a service.

And yeah, if you’re telling people they don’t need an ambulance ride you’d be fired lol

Never wait on an ambulance. Saw this on Quora last night posted by a cop, made some great points:

The average Ambulance in America takes 8 minutes to arrive but in many many places its more like 15 or 20. If your loved ones life is on the line do the mental math. Can you get them to the ER before an Ambulance can get here? If someone I know is dying they're getting thrown in a vehicle and driven to the closest ER turning corners on two tires in almost every conceivable circumstance. This is what Cops do when other Cops get hit. I have never seen or heard of a shot/stabbed St Louis City Cop arriving at the Trauma Center in an Ambulance. The nearest Cop throws you in the back seat and then does some of the scariest driving you will ever see or hear tell of to get you to the ER. If Grandpa suddenly has chest pain and trouble breathing…don't walk him to the bedroom…walk him to the front seat of the car. You will be halfway to getting him to the ER by the time you could have finished describing what is going on and where to 911, let alone waiting for them to be notified, get to the rig and drive to you (then talk a lot and finally drive him to where?...the ER you could have been at 10 minutes after the event started instead of 45 minutes with EMS).

Yeah safari integration is adblock only, but you can just use FireFox on its own and it'll sync. If you want to use FF as your default browser you can do that too

I was pre empting the "cops arrive on scene immediately" comments.

Next they’ll defend fauci with posts

It’s open source. I bring joy to the masses ( in my head )

Right !!! Had a friend with spinal injury, so we picked him up and threw him in the back of the truck and drove him to the hospital but then, as we went to pull him out of the back of the truck, he was lifeless and all white colored. What does that mean?

Lol I see the point you’re making but I couldn’t help but laugh

Bring back the mini versions. WTF Apple. We want mobile phones not mini tablets

r/HailCorporate

"The couple had only recently upgraded to the iPhone 14 thanks to a deal they got on the smartphones. The husband was aware of the feature but wasn't interested in it as he didn't think he'd ever use it."

Apple needs to use this quote in their next ad.

It smells like commercials thousand miles away…

Doesn’t matter, crash detected

The whole basic idea of a phone is to make calls and send text messages

Everything else is just a nice to have

The google pixel is well known for a having a glitch that disables calling, I think to emergency lines only but thats worse.

So its a phone that can glitch out and disable half the phones primary functions

And its like they keep fixing it but it keeps coming back, by this point I wouldn’t be surprised if pixel is on the way to the google graveyard

This is a post is an advertisement literally from Apple Insider. What the fuck, /r/gadgets?

How’s it work exactly?

I’m very tempted to slam my phone into a pillow or run into a wall or something to see if I can trigger it…

iLaughed

What about all those times it failed?

But you wouldn’t know where she was and how to get help there if she wasn’t able to. This may be a bad story but it’s good technology.

The crash detection also sends GPS deets to someone? I hadn't heard that.

My Pixel never went off when I went on roller coasters this year although I didn't take it on the most extreme one due to fear of it falling out. It's certainly plausible.

How would you fix this? Create exclusion zones for crash detection?

It sends GPS location to emergency services and your emergency contacts, otherwise what would be the point? “Your wife has crashed, somewhere on planet earth. Good luck!”

In all seriousness, this say much more about how antiquated emergency services are than about how advance the iPhone is.

I mean, yes of course to emergency services, didn't know about the emergency contacts.

To be fair, I didn't really look into the details of how Apple did it since Google did this a few years ago (I have a Pixel). I completely forgot about the emergency contacts bit. Just checked and I have it set up with my wife already. Oops.

It’s better to have a false alarm and have it protect lives at the same time.

How long before we hear about the first idiot who sets his iPhone to send a crash notification out to his wife and his mistress?

On the flip side, my phone automatically called 911 when I ate it on the slopes yesterday, so there is that.

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Either an accident, or a hook-handed killer in the back seat.

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but that could require effort

Using the sensors from the phone (barometer, accelerometer, etc.), you can filter out seeming obvious non-driving trips once you understand what that data looks like.

I suspect we’ll also start to hear stories about apple detecting crashes when people are skiing/snowboarding this winter, as that’s also a common false-positive scenario. Again, using barometer signals and other sensors, you can start to filter those out.

Source: Work for a company who has crash detection technology that can be embedded into phones/apps

epic response! may the karma gods bless you!

Which is dumb thing we don’t have digital based dispatch for police, fire and ambos. You need someone in call centre to verify it

It’s called hands free

How much does Apple pay for these articles?

Honestly, this probably speaks more to the ambulances staffing crises more than inflated iPhones heroics.

You could probably make a very good guess by just following the routes she takes daily. The guy presumably knew where she was going and probably the way she usually gets there.

Or find my iphone

Good point also, but that would require access to their account assuming it works like android.

Location sharing is an option

😂 fuck we really are doomed, corporations just write their own news now

Yeh but findmyphone already exists and can be shared with family.

Not saying you’re wrong, I see this technology could be very beneficial.

I think the impact it detects has to be pretty significant. Like, you’ve got driving focus right? It detects the iPhone moving because the car is moving. Which is why often times driving focus will activate for passengers. It doesn’t distinguish between driver & passenger.

If it detects the iPhone in motion, then suddenly — BAM — the phone is stationary, it could trigger the detection.

They demonstrated this in a granted, factionalized context on a recent episode of one of the Law & Order iterations. Chris Meloni’s character was in a tight spot, borrowed the phone from a fellow detective, and chucked it as far as he could outside of a dead zone. Phone detected a sudden cessation of movement and automatically dialed 911.

Again, that’s obviously fictionalized, but they got the idea from the real world tech.

Not surprising :(

Sounds like when dogs can detect that a diabetic person’s blood sugar is too low based on the vapor weight of the air around them. It’s fuckin wild

Ah yes, "journalism" that gets it's source from α reddit comment. The pinnacle of credibility right here folks.

I don’t think that’s the point tho

Bruh have you worked any emergency response or hospital positions. It's abused, over worked and under-staffed. Having people use 911 or the ER for actual emergencies as opposed to a taxi or get away is a very fair criticism of our collapsing medical and emergency response system.

This gonna snitch next time I feel like hittin and runnin?

I literally work at a hospital, and at no point have I said these aren’t issues.

Just that the attitude “less calls is better” when there are people who would actively choose to not call a service based on this prejudice because they don’t deem themselves worthy of the effort.

Woozle effect

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UNiTE.

I would be upset, but it's /r/gadgets.

Really, it's my own fault for still being subbed here.

Jesus Christ they’re making news articles based off Reddit post now…can’t believe someone gets paid for that kind of lazy journalism, must be easy money.

Not about apple my friend, it’s the fact that REDDIT IS THEIR ONLY SOURCE!

This is a reddit post about a "news" article about a reddit post.

Here's the source quoted: https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/zcvsvy/thank_you_apple_for_sos/

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Do Apple fans just upvote this nonsense? I don't get it.

So everything on Reddit is fake, including you. Stop pretending you exist!

You can have your hands free and still be distracted. You’re using your brain power to operate a vehicle while watching the road while talking to someone. You’re basically doing mental juggling.

Yes and they downvote you if you disagree or say anything bad about apple

The greatest trick the devil ever played was making you believe you need an iPhone

You CAN be distracted, but that doesn’t MAKE you distracted. With your logic, the same would apply to talking to people who are in the car with you. Do you sit in compete silence every time you drive?

Not everyone uses, or wants to use, find my iphone. For people who think it's abnormal to constantly track their family members but who also may want to alert them if there is an emergency this is a great option. I don't understand the desire to drag this technology, it's almost indisputably a good feature.

This is an absurd take, people often deviate from normal routines for a variety of reasons. My mother was in an accident earlier this year where this would have been incredibly beneficial. Why are you so bent on denying the benefits of this feature. What's your goal here?

I don't disagree, but not everyone uses that feature for a variety of reasons. My mom thinks constant location sharing is creepy but has me and my step dad in her phone as ICE contacts. She was in an accident earlier this year and I would have been grateful if she'd had this. I encouraged her and my step dad to do full time location sharing after that so we would know where she was if something happened again and she didn't want to. She'd do this though and I would rest easier if she had it.

Why do you claim I'm denying the benefits of it? I'm not.

> Why are you so bent on denying the benefits of this feature.

I feel like thats a lot of extrapolation from my one comment lmao. I'm not bent on anything.

I simply saying that in the present, without the above tech, you could make a good guess as to where it happened. As you said just now it's great that he was able to tell exactly where it was with 100% certainty, i'm not denying that in the slightest.

But without it, you could probably still take a guess and still be at least probably 80% accurate. I'm no trying to claim that it's better in the slightest, just that if you knew a crash happened after the audio cut out you could probably find them pretty fast even without it.

You're making claims which, whether intentional or not, serve to discount the usefulness of this technology. First of all, your claim is a stretch for a number of reasons, people don't always take the same route, people aren't always going to the same places, there are countless scenarios which would make it incredibly hard to find someone who'd had an accident even if you're incredibly familiar with their daily routines. It sounds like you're discounting the tech because you were responding to points about what makes the tech valuable. Saying "but you could probably just guess where they are" is a pretty pointless response. Sure, you could, or you could know exactly where they are and where to send help which is much better than going off a hunch which has a too high chance of being wrong when we're talking about an emergency scenario. If your entire point is that, it's sometimes possible to guess where people are, I guess.... great? It's also possible to guess and be wrong while they lie bleeding 2 miles in the other direction.

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Congrats! You walked grandpa with chest pain/sob and threw him into cardiac arrest. Good choice though, 11/10 mental math

You could always pick the person up? Just like a paramedic would have to? There’s very few situations driving someone to the ER yourself wouldn’t work for. There’s an exception to everything you fuckin boner.