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Reddit-username_here t1_j168amh wrote

Congrats Louis Rossmann! Wouldn't have happened without you!

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Gunfreak2217 t1_j17dr53 wrote

But this shit program is horrible. Save like 10% of the cash to do it yourself in comparison to the Apple store. This isn’t a win, it’s a slimey way for them to just fake repair offerings.

10% savings, like 8 hours of your day with full accountability of damage if you fail in anyway…

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Reddit-username_here t1_j17q4nv wrote

You do not have to participate in this, it's not a way for them to fake anything. I fucking hate Apple, I have never and will never own any of their products. But this is good. This means independent repair shops also have access to these parts. Which means it will be cheaper for the consumer to get something repaired, especially if they don't pay for the Apple care bullshit. Instead of being forced to buy an entirely new device, which was common before because people who didn't have Apple care would either be charged more than the cost of a new device, or be lied to that it couldn't be fixed.

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Wirfaway t1_j17qynq wrote

If I understand correctly, it’s still not great for repair shops because the parts are expensive enough that you can’t really make any money and because you can only get the parts on demand (i.e. you can’t buy parts to just have on hand). That and the pain in the ass time wasting process you have to go through to pair the serialized parts through an Apple specialist once the repair is done.

This is only really targeting individuals who want to repair their own devices, but even then, it’s priced such that you’re usually better off just having Apple do it themselves.

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EVOSexyBeast t1_j1952s5 wrote

This is simply false. Independent repair shops can not access the repair tools or parts because in order to receive them you have to enter a serial number of the device you are using it for. The repair shops would have to rent them once the customer comes in and wait days for them to arrive just as the consumer would. And order the parts and wait days for them to come in. The repair shops still have to go through back allies to get a stock of repair parts to repair a customers phone in a timely manner.

Louis Rossmann is not a fan of the program. It changes nothing. It just helps confuse legislators into thinking that right to repair is a problem that will be solved by the free market.

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Reddit-username_here t1_j1973qm wrote

Repair shops have the tools. And yes, they'd have to wait on parts for the serial number of the device, but that's what you get for buying Apple lol.

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EVOSexyBeast t1_j197tqy wrote

When I bought my iPhone from apple I, and most other people, are of the understanding that they own their device. At least the physical hardware of it. Apple disabling my hardware with their software, and trying to prevent me from brining my phone to a third party repair shop, who will actually repair the hardware on my phone because Apple simply won’t no matter how much I’d be willing to pay, is pathetic, anti-competitive, and should be illegal.

And it’s not stopping at Apple, see Tesla doing similar things with their cars. Once manufacturers start getting away with it they will all do it.

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TheyCallMeMrMaybe t1_j19hifk wrote

Not even. The DIY repair is actually MORE expensive than taking it to the Apple Store. This is all just a facade to get US lawmakers to immediately pause any talks on a Right to Repair bill, and to stall EU lawmakers.

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Remote_Cartoonist_27 t1_j1931xm wrote

While it’s better than the nothing that was available before this repair program is extremely lacking and nothing to get excited about. I just look for the iPhones they only offer like 5 parts and they are all over priced. They also don’t sell the tools, only rent them out. Which is weird. And the 5 parts are even for common repairs.(other than the battery, but they don’t sell just a battery. If you want a genuine apple battery and are willing to over pay for it than you have to buy their “battery bundle”.

The parts are also still software locked as well. so if you replace your camera for example your face id won’t work until you contact CS and have them “pair” the new camera to your board.

They also don’t offer any parts on wholesale so it doesn’t help 3rd party repair at all, even if a shop could buy these overpriced parts and pull a profit they can buy, say 5 camera modules, they can only buy 1.

They also don’t have to continue it, especially not in the US where there are 0 consumer protection laws when it comes to repairability or program sustainability.

This isn’t a win, if anything it’s a step backwards because now apple can say “look we don’t need regulation we are already selling parts”

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