FeralCJ7 t1_j25df8x wrote
Reply to comment by Levelman123 in New York breaks the right to repair bill as it’s signed into law | The bill was signed by NY governor Kathy Hochul on December 28th, making New York the first US state to broadly protect a consumer’s right to repair their own tech. by chrisdh79
If they sell the codes whatever to licensed technicians, will there be some sort of federal licensing required to ensure they don't sell it Joe Blow on the street though?
Levelman123 t1_j25ee60 wrote
Why cant Joe Blow on the street fix his own device? I don't know how licensing works with phone repair as i cant think of anything dangerous enough to warrant such licensing. If my phone is broken, i feel i should be allowed to take whatever steps i need to make it operable. There is nothing i can do from my phone that would give me access to any backdoor systems in their systems, if their is, that is a them issue, and they should deal with it on their end.
FeralCJ7 t1_j25glb2 wrote
I guess I'm looking at it from the perspective of right now the tools needed to break encryption and unlock devices aren't commonly possessed. So the incentive to steal my phone, which could happen, really isn't that high right now cuz I can lock it, wipe it etc.
But once you start selling the ability for people to crack devices it'll basically make locking your device worthless.
Levelman123 t1_j25k4yi wrote
Those tools exist en mass currently. Data centers get breached constantly, any incentive to steal your phone already exists. And that incentive doesnt go away just because the person behind the desk is from apple or a tech shop.
In fact apple service jobs have high turn over rate, so the incentives to steal phones is actually higher then if you just gave it to "tom's repair" down the street. Thats what im getting at. There is no difference in security, so when they block any repair bill using security as an issue, just know they are lying through their god damn teeth.
FeralCJ7 t1_j25peih wrote
I don't think I'm making myself clear.
I'm not talking theft from a shop. I'm talking theft from person. From car. Right now pawn shops (at least where I live) only take phones you can prove are unlocked. If anyone can just buy the stuff to unlock it thefts could go up.
Levelman123 t1_j25s4y2 wrote
You dont need to buy anything to unlock a phone right now. Those tools already exist is what i was getting at. Plus pawn shop aint the best example. All i need to do to get around anything a pawn shop looks into is factory reset the phone and remove the sim.
azvnza t1_j26a3pg wrote
a big example is more for iphones, you can’t remove the icloud account without the password. there is no way to do it, and it is still linked to the account post factory reset.
DaRadioman t1_j26qcii wrote
That's not how iPhones work. You can't factory reset away ownership on them, they stay tied to the iCloud account.
Hence this whole damned conversation...
Levelman123 t1_j27iqmy wrote
Okay. Then just make it so they have to sign in to their account first? I'm not sure where this convo ended up
IThinkIKnowThings t1_j26gzdp wrote
"I don't know about you, but I don't want my tax money going towards yet more god damn government oversight." - Some Republican who at some point will cut funding to said licensing agency.
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