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[deleted] t1_j2s3lb5 wrote

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NanoGeek t1_j2sbkd1 wrote

If you already have the Apple TV, can't you just leave it disconnected from the internet? I'm able to use my LG as an entirely dumb TV that way.

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cL0udBurn t1_j2sc9ac wrote

Just to piggyback on this discussion...I was given an Apple TV 4K for Christmas and it's a fuckin gamechanger!

No more shitty slow Samsung "Smart" UI.

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chilifngrdfunk t1_j2smzys wrote

Can't wait to replace my Samsung "smart" tv for this very reason lol I mean $250 for a 55" 4k tv was pretty good and we bought it almost 4 years ago so we've definitely got our money's worth but holy hell does that UI lag like crazy lol

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SwivelingToast t1_j2sm5zf wrote

We use Disney + constantly, and the smart tv apps are all unbearably slow, so I use the PS5. It's overkill for sure, but when I push a button the screen responds instead of waiting 10 seconds or so.

Really wish I could just buy a screen, I have so much crap plugged in that the "Smart" functions are a waste.

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NanoGeek t1_j2soorc wrote

A dumb screen with the same specs would probably cost a good bit more since they'd be losing out on the option to datamine what you watch.

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SwivelingToast t1_j2sp0e4 wrote

I just did a bit of looking, it seems the dumb screens are mostly for commercial applications and the prices are sky high. Guess we're stuck with Smart screens for now.

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brotherenigma t1_j2vyg16 wrote

Which is why projectors and AVRs still exist. More expensive? Definitely. Worth the price? Also definitely.

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pantslespaul t1_j2scf0w wrote

100%. I connect my TV to the internet maybe once a year to check for updates and then immediately off again.

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NanoGeek t1_j2sosg2 wrote

I've never even done that. Are the updates worth getting?

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pantslespaul t1_j2srscr wrote

I think some of the older models added major features like VRR and such after release, but in general probably not. I’d assume there’s some patched vulnerabilities but if it’s air gapped from the internet I’m not sure how much it matters.

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uncoolcat t1_j2srwnb wrote

Updates can be worth installing if they solve problems that the TV has (which can be numerous and can vary substantially between models). The documentation associated with a given update should detail what changes it makes and/or problems it corrects.

If the TV is Internet connected then you definitely want to install updates regularly, as they might patch security vulnerabilities.

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abusivecat t1_j2skqck wrote

That's what I did on my parents LG. The fucking update pop ups are the most annoying thing and webOS is a clustered mess even with the smart remote. Apple TV is king.

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muskratboy t1_j2sq0ns wrote

Smart TVs collect data on everything you watch to be sold on to advertisers. This includes everything you steam, watch local off disks, everything… they actually collect data at the screen level.

TVs are the prices they are because they are subsidized by this entire other business they run, selling your data.

Of course the data randomized and not tied specifically to you, and if you don’t have the TV on the internet it can’t do this at all.

But smart TVs are 100% designed to collect and sell data to advertisers. The bright side is, it means they can be pretty dang cheap… because again, they are actively making money for the TV company, so they want everyone to have one.

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lobsterbash t1_j2squ74 wrote

Feels like it's just a matter of time before these fucking modern parasitic TVs require internet connection to even work. As a television.

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