DeBlackKnight t1_j32ihr9 wrote
Reply to comment by Comander_K33N in AMD says a “limited number” of 7900 XTX GPUs have a thermal throttling problem | Owners of cards with throttling problems are encouraged to contact AMD support. by chrisdh79
So for one, the heat coming out of your case is solely do to the amount of wattage being used. A card can run at 60c peak and still pump out 40c+ air if it's drawing 400-500w.
For two, we are talking about junction (or hotspot, in Nvidia's case) temp, not edge temp. I do not believe for a second that anything other than a watercooled 3090ti is running at 70c junction temp. If you're comparing a watercooled cards' temps to a reference cards temps, I don't know what to tell you.
I believe that the AMD GPUs in question actually maintain fairly decent edge temps, while actively thermal throttling due to junction temps.
sonoma95436 t1_j377yov wrote
Also has to do with efficiency. Die size shrinks generally help efficiency. Heat is wasted energy. Optimized in a perfect scenario it would minimally heat.
BobisaMiner t1_j3lxt92 wrote
In computer chips pretty much all energy ends up as heat. But it's also not wasted energy like it would be in an internal combustion engine.
sonoma95436 t1_j3ndd43 wrote
Why not. In a ICE you can recover some wasted heat with a turbocharger. How do you recover wasted heat with a CPU? In fact you have to use more energy to cool it.
BobisaMiner t1_j3ohwj6 wrote
Sorry I wasn't clear. My point was heat in a cpu is a by-product by design and yeah it's always going to be 100% wasted. I guess it heats our rooms, that's something.
But in an ICE where heat(thermal energy) is what is converted to movement.
sonoma95436 t1_j3oy1wy wrote
In a ICE expanding heated gas from combustion is converted to mechanical energy but waste heat is inefficiency. More direct heat to energy would be a steam engine which is external combustion although steam is released which is a waste heat.
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