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MAMack t1_j3lgy9w wrote

And you’ll easily be able to order one any time you want but still need to hunt websites like you are looking for a console on release day to get the actual raspberry pi.

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tnevets_10 t1_j3m080i wrote

Yeah we trying to get them for our schools CTE class but alas nothing

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Ecterun t1_j3m4zid wrote

If it's for schools you can reach out to the raspberry pi company directly and often they will make some available to you, after proof it is for school/learning. At least this is something I remember reading some time ago. Worth an email to them at least.

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PajamaDuelist t1_j3mvpoy wrote

It's worth an email but it looks like they've recently removed the "For Educators" section from the web site. Redding between the lines on their December supply chain blog update, I'm guessing they are reserving everything for industry needs and no longer guaranteeing stock for education.

I'd still fire off an email because it takes 10 minutes and they are wonderful learning tools.

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Justdaveky t1_j3ndqx6 wrote

Who cares, when you can't get a PI to save your life, what will I mount the camera to?

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spikeuk76 t1_j3nfu7a wrote

Ordered just the one from Pi Hut this morning and dispatched earlier today. One of the lucky ones!

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firebat45 t1_j3llqlm wrote

Yeah I'd prefer it if they would just focus on producing Raspberry Pi boards. Everyone hates console and graphics card scalpers, but Pi scalpers are a huge problem too. It's been nearly impossible to buy a Pi at MSRP for years now.

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aughlord t1_j3loysg wrote

Is there an actual solution to scalpers beyond limiting purchases to individuals?

After all, I might want others to resell my products in order to reach further markets and they might want to increase pricing on said products.

Maybe waiting lists?

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Shawnj2 t1_j3lrq8c wrote

Yes, produce enough boards that scalping isn’t an issue

Otherwise there is a supply/demand mismatch and someone is going to take advantage of that by increasing the price, whether it’s a scalper, the Pi foundation increasing prices, or store markup.

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ispeakdatruf t1_j3mttrw wrote

> Is there an actual solution to scalpers beyond limiting purchases to individuals?

Why is limiting purchases not a solution, albeit not a perfect one?

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ItWasTheGiraffe t1_j3mwcnm wrote

The demand still exists, the supply still doesn’t. Same thing happens with shoes. Individuals will buy a pair and look to flip because there is money to be made. Even if scalpers are prohibited from buying in bulk, scalping will still occur.

The solutions to the availability issue are to either increase supply, or raise the price. One of those is obviously preferable to the other.

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Locked_door t1_j3m41hr wrote

Increase prices to the point people are willing to pay until the manufacturer is able to produce enough supply. Eliminate the middle man…

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NotAHost t1_j3lzttu wrote

Do you think the resources for developing camera boards is impacting the production of Pi boards?

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chevalerisation_2323 t1_j3muxic wrote

Yes. I think it comes from the overrall raspberry pi budget.

Budget spent on developing the camera is budget not spent on accelerating the manufacturing of boards.

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NotAHost t1_j3mvgif wrote

How would they accelerate the manufacturing of boards? Aren’t they manufactured by third parties?

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chevalerisation_2323 t1_j3mwgrg wrote

Invest in better R&D to ease the manufacturing of boards. That's one idea of many.

Are you implying that nothing can be done to accelerate the manufacturing of boards?

Are you implying that Raspberry pi fondation is already at the top maximal optimisation possible when it comes to board manufacturing?

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NotAHost t1_j3n7ylu wrote

I'm trying to understand what you think the bottleneck is that tossing more money would simply solve. Most R&D takes years to have results, and typically budgets have money set aside. It isn't about spending $1M on camera development board or $3M on fab, it can often be an independent decision.

Are you implying that the problem isn't primarily being supply constrained on chips? Or do you think Sony UK Technology Centre is having issues making boards?

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chevalerisation_2323 t1_j3n85lk wrote

I did answer your question, answer mines. Otherwise this is just you asking wide empty questions without ever being responsible for what you implies.

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NotAHost t1_j3ne471 wrote

To my limited understand of the problems that the Raspberry Pi foundation is facing, I do not think there is anything reasonable that can be done to accelerate the manufacturing of boards in the short term.

I also do not think it is likely that the Pi foundation can reasonable increase the 'top maximal optimization possible' when it's Sony fabricating the boards, and a chip shortage that is probably related to Broadcom and more suppliers.

It may be possible for them to switch some chip suppliers and release variations of their boards, but they also have to 'optimize' with their ability to support the boards for 10+ years, one of the core foundations of the organization.

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chevalerisation_2323 t1_j3nj2mj wrote

> To my limited understand of the problems that the Raspberry Pi foundation is facing, I do not think there is anything reasonable that can be done to accelerate the manufacturing of boards in the short term.

That's just goalpost moving. "short term" was never implied nor stated.

You added "short term" because you know there's some stuff to be done eventually.

And if there's some stuff to be done eventually, then I'm right to say that the budget spending on bringing this cam to market should have been invested into accelerating the manufacturing, is a VALID opinion to have.

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NotAHost t1_j3nuio6 wrote

I added short term because this problem is temporary. To solve this problem, you had to solve this problem in the last two years, or otherwise have a magic ball to tell you COVID was going to impact chips the way it did and act before the pandemic.

There is nothing 'to be done eventually.' Chips will come back in stock eventually, board production will continue. You just want to say 'throw more money at it' like it will solve all the problems without understanding the problems. I literally work with PCB manufacturers on a daily basis.

You're also missing the point. The camera budget was likely independent of the production budget. Even if they canceled the camera entirely, it is unlikely to have had an impact on production over the last two years. Budgeting was not the problem, you can read Eben Upton's post about it. It's all been about chips, and any reasonable solution would have taken longer than the pandemic or impacted support of its products.

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chevalerisation_2323 t1_j3nw3vt wrote

> You're also missing the point. The camera budget was likely independent of the production budget.

It's not. It comes out of the same budget overrall.

> it is unlikely to have had an impact on production over the last two years.

Once again you're implying that Raspberry Pi management is perfect and that no amount of additionnal work hours/budget could improve, even slightly, the situation. That's just wrong.

Look, take 15 minutes and introspect that your POV is that nothing could be done to improve (even just a little bit) the production of Pis, not now not later. You're arguing that the incredibly complex and numerous steps of bringing a product like a Raspberry pi to consumers (from R&D to manufacturing to suppliers etc) can't, in anyways or form, be improved, even slightly.

Every tech companies, from Apple to IBM to Razers to Intel to Sennheiser etc etc etc are all constantly improving their productions, but Raspberry pi actually have it perfect and nothing could be improved. That's your take.

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NotAHost t1_j3o3tgx wrote

>Every tech companies, from Apple to IBM to Razers to Intel to Sennheiser etc etc etc are all constantly improving their productions, but Raspberry pi actually have it perfect and nothing could be improved. That's your take.

This isn't about improving products, this is about production of more raspberry pis. If you want to put words in my mouth, fine, let me return the favor.

You believe that the Pi foundation should shutdown all other divisions, all development of different products, future products, etc., if it means they can get one more single raspberry pi fabricated even if it costs millions and the company goes under. That's your take.

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chevalerisation_2323 t1_j3o5lir wrote

>This isn't about improving products, this is about production of more raspberry pis.

Which why I said "are all constantly improving their productions". I'm talking about production, not products https://www.dictionary.com/browse/production

>On the other hand, you believe that the Pi foundation should shutdown all other divisions, all development of different products, future products, etc., if it means they can get one more single raspberry pi fabricated even if it costs millions and the company goes under. That's your take.

That's not my take. My take is very simple: The funds used to launch the camera (from RnD to productions to marketing etc) should have been used to accelerate the production of raspberry pi instead.

You're the one arguing that accelerating that production is impossible.

Just read the chain of comments. It's exactly your take. Your putting words into your own mouth.

I just have a different budgeting priority, which happens all the time, and for some reason you're butthurt about that.

I don't care if we don't have the same budgeting priorities, but saying my priorities don't work because improving production isn't possible ("but but but what can they do?!" ) , is an ignorant take.

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NotAHost t1_j3rcdu2 wrote

The camera budget wouldn't have been moved to the production budget. The production budget is determined independently, based on the ROI of said budget. Tossing more money at the production budget would have done practically very little over the course of the last two years when the issue chip supplies, pretty much completely out of their control. You saying 'just do toss it into R&D for board production' screams that you don't know anything realistic about the industry. The board is simple. Sony makes the boards. The chips are simple. Broadcom and more make those. Do you understand that Raspberry Pi doesn't make the boards or the chips? The only 'R&D' they could do is change board design to account for additional chips and again, that goes against the core principles of the Raspberry Pi foundation. It would take time. And after all that work, as soon as chip supplies start picking up again, you have an ugly duckling product that was a colossal waste of time and money.

Your statements imply that the Raspberry Pi foundation doesn't know what they're doing in balancing the budget of new tech and production. That they don't know what is a reasonable amount of budgeting. That you know better than not only the CEO of the Pi Foundation, with his PhD from Cambridge, but the entire management team at the Raspberry Pi Foundation.

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chevalerisation_2323 t1_j3rfs9s wrote

> The camera budget wouldn't have been moved to the production budget.

It could have. For sure.

> The production budget is determined independently, based on the ROI of said budget.

No, the production budget is determined by the production needs.

> Tossing more money at the production budget would have done practically very little over the course of the last two years when the issue chip supplies

That's not true. Intel, AMD, Razer, Seinnheiser, Xbox, Steelseries, Playstation, Sony, etc. are ALL constantly improving their production. And most of those have chip production shortage. Just because steps #298 of the production is slowed down, doesn't mean the hundreds of other steps can't be optimized.

My statements implies that there's still some possible improvement when it comes to the entire production. Which is true. No company right now has a perfect production.

Just because Raspberry pi doesn't manufacture the board, doesn't mean they can't possibly improves the production. Plenty of tech companies don't manufacture their own stuff, as it's made in some factory in China, yet they still work and improve their production, from signing better deals, from improving the R&D so that the manufacturing process is more streamlined, from switching to easier to work materials, finding better carriers with better routes, etc.

Once again, you're making a point that the raspberry pi production line is near perfect. That's just being ignorant.

> The only 'R&D' they could do is change board design to account for additional chips

See how ignorant you're being? How is that the only R&D possible? You're implying Raspberri pis are near-perfect.

Like, here's your take:

  • Signing better manufacturing deals from different factories = Nope raspberry pi fondation has near-perfect manufacturers right now.
  • R&D to ease the manufacturing of Raspberries, from the board specs to materials = Nope raspberry pis manufacturing and design are near-perfect right now.
  • Finding a better carrier with more direct routes/less downtime = Nope raspberry pi fondation has near-perfect carriers right now.
  • Cut deals with manufacturers to develop/add more customs raspberry pi automated assembly machines = Nope raspberry pi fondation has near-perfect amount of automated assembly machines right now.

EVERY TECH COMPANIES are investing to improve their production lines because there's optimization to be done, but you think raspberry pi fundation is immune to that, because there's little to do?

BILLIONS DOLLARS COMPANIES constantly invest to improve their production lines, to cut down manufacturing times, but Raspberry pi fundation is near-perfect and wouldn't benefits from investing more into their production lines? Such an ignorant take.

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MidnightAdventurer t1_j3on8bi wrote

What exactly do you propose they invest in? There aren't enough chips to go around - this is affecting everything from Raspberry Pis to car manufacturing.
The cause is a combination of Covid, trade restrictions (for really high end stuff) and some weather affecting the current fabrication plants.

There's only 2 things that can change this - one is more production out of the current semiconductor fabrication plants, the other is more plants. More plants are being build and in different locations to spread the risk around and I doubt the current plants are giving up on production capacity if they have a choice.

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chevalerisation_2323 t1_j3pjry9 wrote

I've already answered that question: Invest in better R&D to ease the manufacturing of boards.

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MidnightAdventurer t1_j3s411g wrote

Which will do what? Manufacturing boards isn’t the problem. There’s no chips to put on them…

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chevalerisation_2323 t1_j3s4lih wrote

Which means that when chips will be available, the production process will be shorter.

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Kevin_Jim t1_j3luan2 wrote

Until they switch to RISC-V that will continue to be the case. They main reason RPis are cheap is because they get a sweetheart deal from Broadcom.

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yumri t1_j3lz9dj wrote

Well the only good RISC-V board i have seen looks basically like Raspberry pi 3 but with a RISC-V SoC made by VisionFive who also makes the SBC it is in. The main problem is it is RISC-V not ARM so the code will have to change to match.

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Kevin_Jim t1_j3m5etf wrote

I doubt they RaspberryPi foundation will have match trouble porting their libs, and it’ll be relatively straightforward to maintain the same GPIO.

It’s a matter of resources and commitment. They have the resources, but the moment they even think of deviating from Broadcom, there will be not coming back from it. So, they have to be 100% in.

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yumri t1_j3mze74 wrote

As VisionFive is a competitor to the RaspberryPi foundation but they actually have a product you can buy. Again the problem is most is made for ARM not RISC-V but as you explained it will be relatively straightforward to use as the same GPIO count and connectors.

So the Camera module should work with their board when the environment is made for RISC-V not just for ARM. I am hoping it will be but i do not know how hard it will be as i don't know RISC-V programming.

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Kevin_Jim t1_j3n8q8u wrote

LLVM made porting across architectures much easier than it ever was.

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DocPeacock t1_j3mnu8o wrote

They are producing plenty of R Pi boards, just not for the consumer market. Commercial and military are using more RPi than ever before. I believe that is their primary income stream now. The hobbyists and hackers will get the leftovers if available. The shortage causes scalpers, not the other way around.

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rando-mcranderson t1_j3m4ytt wrote

Agreed.

I broke down and bought a Le Potato because I couldn't find a Pi - even overpriced - for a project I needed to get done.

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ma2016 t1_j3me8rf wrote

Good thing I bought one years ago and never got around to using it in a project! Hooray! 🙃

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HeyZeusDiedForYou t1_j3mv9tb wrote

Same, now I feel compelled to do something cool with it just because of the knowledge that there’s a shortage

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ma2016 t1_j3mx7qe wrote

An easy project is to set up a flight tracker in your own home! https://flightaware.com/adsb/piaware/build/

I did it with my old Raspberry Pi because I was desperate to do something with it. The extra parts (antenna and USB signal converter) are like less than 40 bucks if I remember right. Took me like an afternoon to get it all setup. You contribute data to FlightAware and in exchange you get free Enterprise membership (like 100s of dollars/year). You can also set it up so you contribute to FlightRadar24 as well, with a similar membership incentive. I go on a lot of business trips so it's fun to have access to all the extra flight data and keep track of where my plane is. Also, with FlightAware there's a specific web page where they show you exactly what your antenna is detecting. It's really cool to see that I'm tracking some international flight at 35,000 ft and hundreds of miles away all from my apartment haha

TL;DR: It's a fun easy project requiring few extra parts. However, once it's set up there's not much to do with it except check on it.

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HeyZeusDiedForYou t1_j3n3zhe wrote

That’s awesome, would love to hear any other recommendations if you have any

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ma2016 t1_j3n7tz9 wrote

Only other thing I considered doing was setting up a twitter bot that tweeted out the largest donors to politicians that voted to overturn the 2020 election. fec.gov tracks all political donations, including basic info on individual donors. They have an API through which you can query data like any other API. I messed around for a while and got pretty much what I wanted out of some basic Python scripts.

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What I wanted to do (before several life events got in the way in 2022) was set up a service on my second Raspberry Pi which periodically queried the FEC API for the largest recent donors to this list of politicians. Then I would have a twitter account specifically set up to tweet the results. I was gonna call it "Insurrectionist Tracker" or something like that. Anyway, ended up only being able to get the python scripts to run locally on my windows PC, never set up the second Pi. I also was definitely not going to learn how to use the Twitter API in any reasonable amount of time. And now things are extra screwed cause of how Musk is handling things. Maybe I'll make a website or something.

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Emu1981 t1_j3ps5kk wrote

>Same, now I feel compelled to do something cool with it just because of the knowledge that there’s a shortage

My Pi is just sitting attached to my 3D printer that I haven't used in forever because I had health issues. I could probably sell it for a profit or use it in some other project but I do want to get my 3D printer up and running again sooner or later and Octoprint makes life so much easier.

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AzLibDem t1_j3ls13z wrote

Pointless, since you can't get a Raspberry Pi anywhere.

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WorstPapaGamer t1_j3lsdha wrote

Raspberry pi 5 is rumored to come out this year (hopefully early 2023). Hopefully it’ll be a decent stock (although I doubt it).

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MetabolicCloth t1_j3lthgq wrote

That’s not true. The first 2 quarters will be improving stock levels of raspberry pi’s, by the second half of the year they’ll be back to pre-pandemic levels. The Pi 5 has been pushed back to 2024 so that they can get stock levels back up.

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PotusThePlant t1_j3lxjnn wrote

Source?

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MetabolicCloth t1_j3lye1l wrote

The interview posted above highlights what I said although its 30 minutes. There's articles from Tom's hardware, Ars Technica, etc. That all go into more depth on their coverage of the interview. The short answer is Eben doesn't want to hurt the supply of the other products to release the Pi 5 so they're waiting. He said maybe end of year 2023 they could start thinking about a release

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NJKelly t1_j3lrvyl wrote

I ordered a PI 4 8GB in September. I saw the anticipated delivery date as December. December gets here and I go online to check status. I missed the fact that the estimated delivery time is December 2023. Lost that project to someone that had the PIs already.

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RealExii t1_j3lsr4y wrote

Wtf are people gonna do with a RasPi add-on and no RasPi?

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stayrill t1_j3lpuy0 wrote

Hooray to an add on nobody will get to use because of how impossible it’s been to get a raspberry pi for 2 years.

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Anotherusernamegoner t1_j3lth4g wrote

As the vast majority have already stated and I’ll happily pile on to the “big fucking deal because getting a Pi is nearly impossible unless you’re willing to wait a seeming eternity, or pay bullshit levels of cost” pile

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98jackalope t1_j3ly6q7 wrote

Wow, I had no idea Pis have a supply chain problem. I've been screwing around with a few on personal projects but they are Pis I've had on the shelf for years. I guess I should consider myself lucky to have gotten them for a reasonable cost. I just checked, and the 3B+ models like mine are going for $50-$100 on ebay, and I could find even crazy higher pricing. I just bought my kid an Arduino starter kit, I guess those are not experiencing the same issue.

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2bad2care t1_j3m2ug5 wrote

Damn. Now I feel guilty for having a few models laying around not doing anything.

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Walt_the_White t1_j3m7alo wrote

Was looking for one for a pi hole recently and was so disappointed to find out how hard they are to find now.

They used to be everywhere

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Anotherusernamegoner t1_j3t5s72 wrote

They’re rare AF now. I have 8 x Pi 3b (purchased 4 years ago) that I use for a low level back up storage, but I’ve been trying to get my hands on a decently priced Pi4 for so fucking long that I’ve just given up

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Walt_the_White t1_j3t9lou wrote

Me too. Gave up immediately when I saw the price they were going for. I'll come back later when they're reasonable maybe

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yumri t1_j3lo8m6 wrote

https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/new-autofocus-camera-modules/Would have been a better link than the verge to link. Now with that said for most use cases it is the same as camera module 2 just with a motorized focus so you don't have to move it by hand every time you have to move the lens.
Pixels are bigger not smaller going back to what the Camera Module 1 had for pixel size.you do get 720p @ 100fps or 1080p @50fps.
1 gram heavier.
wider horizontal but smaller vertical view

On a up note it is basically a drop in replacement for camera module 1 and 2 if you are using the modern libcamera software environment otherwise your raspberry pi will not work with it. For most is will be an entire system redo due to how important the environment working in is. So going from 1 to the other but wanting to keep the other's software intact is a new SD Card is needed for the raspberry pi.

It is a good camera for IoT stuff and for hobbyist stuff not so much if you want to use it in a company use kind of way.

Edit: fixed formatting

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TechGuy219 t1_j3maw80 wrote

If I’ve been wanting to get the HQ pi cam to monitor my 3d printer with one of the 2 lenses made for it, would I want to consider this new module and why or why not?

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yumri t1_j3my18k wrote

I would suggest camera module 2 or 3 not HQ. Mostly as you don't need 2028x1520 but slower recording speed and/or streaming video speed. 1080p is good enough. Having 60 fps is most likely better than 40 but that is just me. How high they both go is also relative to how high you sent the resolution. module 3 can do 120 when 640x480 and HQ can do 120 when at 1332x920.

Unless you already got it I would go with module 2 for your use case. As it isn't that much worse than 3 and more compatible.

Here is a list of comparisons.

Camera module 3 vs Camera module 2

The camera module 3
pros:
1080p 60hz record though software might limit you to slower
Better color reproduction

cons:
weights more by 1 gram being 3 grams of weight ( unsure if 1 gram is a lot of a little for your set up)
requires more space on the vertical axis
ONLY compatible with the modern libcamera software environment and not the legacy closed-source camera stack

The camera module 2
pros:
supports 1080p 47frames per second though quickest at 240p at 207frames per second
generates smaller files
color reproduction acceptable for your use case
cheaper
lighter at 3 grams instead 4 grams
is compatible with both the legacy closed-source camera stack and modern libcamera software environment
physically thinner than camera module 3

cons:
It does not support 720p
End of life is sooner though still well supported and as it is open source end of life will just apply to hardware not software
have to manually adjust the camera when moving it physically

Camera module 3 vs Camera module HQ

Camera module HQ
pros:
2028x1520 at 40 frames per second

con:
physically bigger at 38mm x 38mm x 18.4mm not including the lens
you need a external lends for it to be better than the camera module 3
more expensive at 50 USD before you but the lens

unsure about compatibility with software

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Camera module 3
pros:
faster record at 1080p at 60fps
better color reproduction
weights less how much depends on which lens you use with the module HQ
cheaper
physically smaller at 25mm x 24mm x12.4mm

con:
doesn't support as many lens
only goes up to 1080p not higher

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TechGuy219 t1_j3n3byd wrote

Oh my, many thanks for this most detailed advice!

One more question if I may. Let’s say I already have the pi wide lens that I got with intent to use with the HQ, would that lens fit on the CM 3?

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yumri t1_j3nkh0s wrote

As i do not use a lens i can only go by the documentation. The 6mm one should fit and work correctly while the 16mm one will not. The reason seem to lie with the senor used. Again should I am not saying it will.

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Shavethatmonkey t1_j3m8n1v wrote

I kind of gave up on the Pis. Too hard to find, too expensive when you do. If I'm spending 150 to get one I'll buy an old laptop and slap linux on it.

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diegoguerrero50 t1_j3n8git wrote

Yup, I bought a pretty good laptop for 100 dollars at Best Buy, installed Linux and I truly can't believe you can beat that value.

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eulynn34 t1_j3lyhx7 wrote

Now all we need is the ability to actually purchase Pis

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NickMalo t1_j3m095c wrote

Great, now please lower the prices or increase production of the pi4. I cannot justify $170 on an $80 product.

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sonic10158 t1_j3n1vh7 wrote

Wake me when they release the Raspberry Pi

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twistsouth t1_j3lrl5e wrote

Is it basically a choice of IR or no-IR? There’s no camera with a mechanically operated filter like you see in security cameras?

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rogerrrr t1_j3lz96u wrote

Official only IR or visible wavelengths.

But if you're okay buying 3rd party there are a couple options that use the same Ribbon cable connection to the Pi that let you manually switch between the two.

The one I've been using only supports the Pi 3 and earlier (not the most recent Pi 4).

But I assume there's been more recent products as well.

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IllIllllIIIlllII t1_j3lxh9n wrote

Would be nice if they launched some raspberry pi zero 2s you could actually buy

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imakesawdust t1_j3p20uh wrote

By the time hobbyists can actually buy a Pi, this camera will be obsolete.

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ViktorLudorum t1_j3m3hdt wrote

Is there an alternative to the raspberry pi that still has the CSI-2 camera interface?

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sai-kiran t1_j3m5isu wrote

Arducam, its a rabbithole of PI cameras. They also have a 108MP module, TOF camera etc

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jdeezy t1_j3lz3n6 wrote

Think it has a better sensor than a typical dash cam?

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Tangerine_Trees t1_j3m3smm wrote

Typically Sony IMX imaging sensors are pretty well thought of in the machine vision world so potentially better in some ways. Sounds like more hassle than worth to configure a Pi based camera system in your car instead of a cheap yet functional dash cam though

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eb86 t1_j3mlenq wrote

It's really not much of a hassle if anyone wanted to learn. Wiring was simple too, just use a relay to signal when the car acc is on/off. It worked well and I even tied it into my wifi so I could automate remotely downloading the files. What sucks is lack of simultaneous audio and video recording, lack of rtc, time-stamping limitations, fov not suited as dash cam.

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jdeezy t1_j3mkk6r wrote

LTT did a video on it, but basically, ALL retail sold dash cams have one of a few sensor assemblies, and they're all a bit shit. So if you want that crystal clear love SE plate read you may be out of luck.
So a homebrew solution might actually be reasonable use of time.

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jtablerd t1_j3mr7fb wrote

I have some pis, these look really cool, especially the M12 mount

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Wdrussell1 t1_j3ms8ne wrote

I need like 10 of the actual computer though. Not this stuff.

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Praughna t1_j3mshrv wrote

TIL Raspberry PI boards are apparently hard to find now?

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angrybox1842 t1_j3n66cu wrote

New 4's have been backordered for years and years into the future.

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chevalerisation_2323 t1_j3mv8gu wrote

I'm not sure the real point of this when you can buy a camera with everything included for like 35$

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AddictedToRads t1_j3otmk6 wrote

When are they also releasing Raspberry Pi's?

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CompetitionQuiet7096 t1_j3r4kim wrote

I got a pi4 8gb for retail from my homies at the local microcenter. I should count my blessings because I know i got lucky but still pretty amped

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northrivergeek t1_j6cdr0f wrote

Was there yesterday guy in front of me got the last one they had from shipment that arrived the day before.. was so sad

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