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Corporateart t1_j3oi4bv wrote

Yes, the price Apple pays to produce these will go down.

Will we see the savings as consumers is another question.


anon2282 t1_j3ptfzr wrote

Prices are rarely, if ever connected to costs. The only thing that brings prices down is competition/availability of alternatives.


Leprecon t1_j3q6g78 wrote

People should get this in their heads:

  1. Manufacture cost should always be as low as possible without dropping in quality.
  2. Sales price should always be set to whatever price will make the most money. Too high and people will buy something else. Too low and you’re missing out on profit.

Sales price is separate from manufacture cost.

As a consumer you have the choice to buy or not to buy. People complaining about the high price of iPhones just seem crazy to me. Nobody is forcing you to buy the latest iPhone. Smartphones are cheaper than ever and you can get phones that are good enough for <200.


Iintl t1_j3qsbsh wrote

Exactly. So many people whining about how "GPU prices are going up, XXX card being too expensive, XX60-class card being sold for XX80 class money", and I'm just like, you can choose to not buy them? Nobody is forcing gamers to buy the latest GPUs


Wise_Control t1_j3r8j2b wrote

This is the reason I bought a 2060. Couldn’t be happier! I don’t always need the newest of the newest.


LolindirLink t1_j3rg9zx wrote

Our budget allows for a ~€300,- GPU that we hope will last 5 years. I don't like spending half the budget on a GPU, gamer or not the price ratio just always seemed off to me. CPU, Mobo, RAM and storage is also very important and the costs add up quickly.


macnar t1_j3r1bc7 wrote

Why are you acting like only one can be true? They are both true.


the_first_brovenger t1_j3ra7q5 wrote

If there one thing I've come to accept it's that yes, my generation (millennial) is extremely entitled. Like christ we're honestly as bad as the boomers, just different.

The latest iPhone, the greatest GPU, multiple consoles, all online services should be free, etc etc etc.

For instance I got so much shit for pointing out if you don't like ads on YouTube just pay for it. It's cheap as hell compared to what you get for it.



Capitalism works a little more tolerably for the middle class when consumers advocate strongly for themselves. Choosing not to consume when prices are too high is how prices get lowered. Want us to suck it up and pay? Take it to /r/HailCorporate.


edvek t1_j3rv0s6 wrote

I refuse to listen to ads. I will always and forever use ad blockers. I have YouTube Vance on my phone which I mirror to my TV. If I don't feel like getting up I'll suffer through ads from Hulu on the TV but ad blockers still work on the computer for Hulu. Fuck tiers of ads/no ads.

Also people can complain and the complaint can be valid and not be entitled. YouTube has gotten more aggressive with ads and unskipable ads. People say "well that's how they make money and if they dont have ads/paid they will close." That is untrue and YouTube will die when Google dies. It's too big of a platform for them to close and they would run it at a loss for 100 years before think of closing it.

Also gpu prices are out of control this is well documented and well known.

Your points are bad and you should feel bad.


Activedarth t1_j3sdot6 wrote

I will never ever pay to remove ads on any service. Hell, I just want YT for free without ads and I’m adamant about it. Ad blockers forever!


the_first_brovenger t1_j3sfcjb wrote

Case in point.

I use ad blocker myself. Everywhere.

But be honest, you're an entitled little shit expecting everything online for free.


anon2282 t1_j3r1bmf wrote

I couldn't agree more. There is significant competition in the smartphone device space. If the iphone is too expensive, have a look at the 100+ other phones from 10+ other manufacturers.


eriverside t1_j3rkmmh wrote

There are more than 1 pricing strategies and they depend on the market. You can have standard/set markups (nominal or %), small margins but high volume (tightly coupled to cost), set prices based on features/brand/luxury (decoupled from costs)...

I think most people would rather sell their goods with a defined profit margin (1), because if they can drop manufacturing costs, their prices will come down but they'll likely sell more.

2 is fine for monopolies (from a sales perspective).

3 is better suited to luxury goods.


cman674 t1_j3s269o wrote

I've commented this before, but the original iPhone retailed for $599 when it released in 2007. That equates to around $850 in 2022 accounting for inflation. The base model iPhone 14 retails for $799.


Jimothy_Tomathan t1_j3qm82m wrote

And there lies the beauty of the closed ecosystem. Especially when they tout technology like this as being an Apple innovation....when it's not. Prices will never come down.


Stingray88 t1_j3q2pe2 wrote

>Will we see the savings as consumers is another question.

Narrator: “They won’t.”


lexshotit t1_j3q7ffg wrote

They'll probably bump up the price a little


PlankOfWoood t1_j3otudd wrote

>Will we see the savings as consumers is another question.

Steve Wozniak: I bought the newest Ipohone at half the price without trading in a different phone. Do I care if apple doesn't treat its customers the same way? No.


KingCreeper7777 t1_j3pufdl wrote

Until I reread and saw Steve i thought this was about scott the woz


Fillmore43 t1_j3qgi5n wrote

Armani was presented with Chinese knock off Armani watches that were so good, he went to the factory and bought into it. His watches were no longer made in Europe and he enjoyed the increase in margins. I bet TC raises prices to celebrate the innovation