This isn't debate club lol as for calling them liars, the only thing they lied about was the game being in a finished state, which wasn't the devs, it was the higher ups. So you're "argument" falls flat unless you say the boss that pays their checks lied and said it was done. We all had things we wanted out of the game that they never said was a part of it then people got mad when it wasn't there. The game was good from the start. The console versions were fucked but pc was mostly fine. They needed more time to optimize it for consoles because they game was just too much for last gen. Cry about it while I enjoy one of the best games they've ever released I'm not debating you loser