The game was fine since release, just buggy like other CDPR titles. Witcher 3 wasn't exactly very good at launch but they fixed it and re-released with all the DLC.

It shouldn't have been released on PS4 and XBone and I think the reception would've been better.

This thread will probably be mixed with some people complaining about Cyberpunk’s launch state, and some saying it was never bad. In my mind it’s now mostly the game it claimed to be and really good, and I think that should be celebrated in the same way No Man’s Sky is. I’m very excited for the upcoming DLC and whatever comes out after.

100%. They should have cancelled the previous gen version. Claimed the hardware couldn’t meet their vision. Would have bummed people out but probably would have avoided the buggy reputation it got

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Don't get me wrong, I am a big fan, but tbf it was more than just bugs. The police system and civilian AI were both terrible. Still not great but certainly better than launch. Lots of features were also either over hyped or cut. CDPR was really their own worst enemy in a lot of ways when you look back at the marketing too.

>This thread will probably be mixed with some people complaining about Cyberpunk’s launch state, and some saying it was never bad.

What is more interesting actually is how easily even a lot of the people heavily disliking the game were dissuaded by an anime 🤣

I played it on launch and had a great time with it. I'm one of the lucky ones that experienced very few bugs until maybe the last 10% of the play through (I did all main and side quests).

I still recognize that it had its flaws, but at the time I really felt like I was one of the only people getting to enjoy it due to everyone swear ing it off haha. Glad to hear it's made a comeback and might play through again soon.

who cares about police system and civilian AI? This game got bout load of quests and cool locations, who got time to interact with wanted system. I never got wanted even once. This is not GTA

It’s still pretty mid tier as an open world game. It’s a competent and stylistic shooter, nothing else

What was the best? 2020? The launch year of Cyberpunk 2077?

>who cares about police system and civilian AI? This game got bout load of quests and cool locations, who got time to interact with wanted system. I never got wanted even once. This is not GTA

Lots of people care considering that they were heavily criticized features, and CDPR boasted about how immersive the game world is.

Nothing screams immersion like firing a gun and every NPC getting out of their car, squatting with hands over their head, and disappearing the moment you turn away lol.

Look, like I said, I love the game and liked it Day 1, but you can like something while still acknowledging the issues and flaws it has/had.

My first thoughts were: “Wow, this city is big and looks amazing”.

My thoughts after a couple of hours: “So I can’t go in to this building either. Oh shit! Another cut scene!”

I still remember articles and posts complaining that machine that can run W3 on max settings isn't invented yet.

There's always some TPP whiner in CP2077 thread.

Nobody did until CDPR set themselves as a competitor to GTA. CDPR fanboys were circlejerking that Cyberpunk will put down gta and cyberpunk will be the next gta and the next best open work game ever. One of the dumbest comments I saw from a CDPR fanboy before cyberpunk 2077 release was this "R* went from cars [GTA 5] to horses [RDR 2] and CDPR went from horses[Withcher 3] to cars[Cyberpunk 2077]". I wish this guy was joking but he wasn't. He used the mode of transport and timeline in which those games take as a measurement of quality of products. CDPR fanboys were hyping this shit up like the 2nd second coming of Jesus Christ and CDPR did nothing control the hype. They also said that Cyberpunk 2077 will aim to be as polished as RDR 2.

The marketing really was bad for this game. I liked the actual game. If it wasn't for it's marketing, I think game would have been well received even if we ignore the bugs.

I will always claim that majority of people suffered no major and/or only minor bugs. Silent majority is a thing.

Not the same people. If anything anime brought in people who stayed away from the game up until that point because they followed the narrative that it's a shit game.

Last year I bought stocks of CD Projekt Red because I thought that they have the worst behind and now with Witcher 3 Remaster, Cyberpunk Next Gen and Expansion, they will became profitable and stocks will go up.

Yet I still losing about 40%. Which is my record. Even in these times. So I still hope that Witcher 4 or Cyberpunk 2 will make my investment worthy.

*I am not financial advisor...I know shit.

It should NOT be celebrated like no mans sky is. I am a fan of the game and dont think it should be like banned from all conversation or anything but its absurd to compare it. They canceled multiplayer totally. They are not working until the game that was promised, they arent even updating the fucking police until the paid expac, theyre just making it good enough to get people to buy a second.

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probably because of the edgerunner anime

I will buy it when the ultimate edition comes out. I was excited for years leading up to it, but it only recently seems to be in a good spot. When I have finished TOTK to an obscene degree I will be stoked to finally get down on Cyberpunk.

>Their other big franchise is 3rd person

So? They made one TPP game so now all their games have to be TPP?
Or maybe now something for people who hate TPP?

Also, because YOU don't like FPP, CP2077 HAS to be TPP. Yep, that's the definition of entitlement. Especially 7 years after it was announced that the game is FPP.

I'm sure that has nothing to do with david Martinez.

You are on point imo. The game is no more than mid. They met zero of the expectations they set. A lot of cut content. There's still a very long list of disappointing things that make it the mid game it is.

On the other hand, no man's sky got so many fucking DLCs, like a lot, and they were huge. The game has completely changed since launch, TONS of NEW content, and an equal amount of QoL updates. There's no way one can compare the amount of work put on no man's sky and cyberpunk. The quality too.

Not pointing fingers at the devs, who had to crunch like crazy, we all know it's a problem coming from management, publishers and all that nice stuff.

The anime most likely also brought many people that didn't even hear of the game at all. That's the best move they did to recover this disaster. The game is still barebone though.

It hasn't even come close to the post launch support NMS has received.

I played the game at launch on X1X, managed to get through it with the crashes, but felt disappointed. I didn’t hesitate to accept the full refund.

Now that I own a PS5, I’ll likely buy the game when it has its DLC. There’s some stuff they did with the game that was truly remarkable, even at launch. It’s sad to see that they struggled so much with their own engine that they’ll be jumping on the UE5 bandwagon, but if it means better games, I’ll all for it.

I agree. I played the game a few months after it came out and had minimal bugs and the game was mid. You cant even change your character hairstyle FFS

Yeah, im glad theyve taken steps, but NMS is another level. Plus that studio was way smaller by comparison.

Ill give Hello Games a bit more slack, im less inclined to pat CDPR for actually finishing the product people paid money for.

That's the cry baby stuff I'm here for. Let those salty tears flow little boy.

The anime also brought the loli gang.

Bruh

One of the least true things I've ever read right here

I know, right?

It's not even close to the game that it was promised to be.

And, you know what, I've always felt that the praise that Cyberpunk 2077 is getting now is completely unjustified.

I loved Edgerunners, but the praise that show is getting definitely shouldn't be directed toward Cyberpunk 2077 just because they are the same IP.

Praise Trigger Studio for making a great videogame adaptation, not the company that has failed to give us what was promised over 8 years of advertising even 2 years after launch.

Like, where the hell is "the most believable open world game to date"?

Where are the "choices that ripple throughout the entire game"? I don't see anything in the game that reflects that.

Where are the NPCs that have their own individual day and night cycle?

Spawning in during the day, walking around in a circle for an hour, and despawning during night doesn't count. The NPCs should be "living their lives"!

Where are the police chases and factions we could join up with?

Why can we only play Corpo or Nomad for 10 minutes before we are forced to play Street Kid?

Why even have the choice of background in the first place when it doesn't matter in any way?

Street Kid is the Skyrim archer build of Cyberpunk backgrounds. We always turn into one.

Where the hell is the game that "aims to be just as polished as Red Dead Redemption 2?"

The air quotes are CDPR's words, not mine.

The only thing that Cyberpunk deserves to be praised for, as of right now, is the city layout. It's genuinely impressive.

And no, CDPR shouldn't be praised for patching the game, that is a practice that should've been expected from the start as well as getting a finished product on launch!

Stop lowering standards even further than they already are!!

The praise for this game is so unjustified it's unreal.

Like it has to be artificially fabricated in some way.

Little boy? LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO guys check this poof out

I loved what I played when it first came out but it kept crashing. haven't made time to play since the updates

turnaround, that's funny...

No Man's Sky is a turnaround. This? not so much..

You played it like a month and a half after it came out.

You been able to change your hairstyle for almost a full year now?

It's still missing over 40% of the features promised. No man's sky eventually delivered the features and then went further beyond

Oh I'm sure you have a ton of guys in your room.

It’s a competent, stylish shooter, sure. But it’s also a game with quests like Sinnerman, Coin Operated Boy, Don’t Lose Your Mind. There are some games covering those topics, but not many.

Usually only one other. Everyone knows the best threeways are MFM

Same dude. I played it pn PC at launch and honestly can not recall any of the glitches or bugs I may have encountered. I don't think there were.really any at all for me. The driving was weird as fuck though.

The Witcher 3 was much much better.

You played the game all the way through then asked for a refund anyways? Lol wtf?

It was offered and I didn’t see myself playing again. So, yeah.

Oddly enough, I also bought the game on Stadia and well, we know how that went.

I mean if they offered why not? haha

Here I'm chiming in with the "it's still not good" opinion.

Watched the anime, played the game, still heavily entrenched in the narrative that it's a shit game.

that was just an example. Im not going to say the game is awesome now because you can change your hair.

Not probably, absolutely. One of the Best anime I’ve seen. Rewatched like 3 times in few months!

Same, actually I bought the game because of the anime

Best anime I saw last year. Period. It was amazing 10/10

Cyberpunk is still disappointing. Now that they’ve “fixed” it it’s very playable and you can still get your money’s worth but it’s still a shadow of what it could have been.

I played at launch on a 1060 and had almost no issues beyond small graphical or physics glitches. Had a blast with it and am saving another play through for when the DLC comes out.

The strongest part of the game is the story tbh albeit short if you're speed running the main story. The side quests add so much to the game.

True you're right, the game was always good so there was nothing to turn around.

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It's not even close to what it claimed to be

The game has always been 'decent', if you had a good PC.

Other than that it was, and still is, a massive disappointment.

100%

Don't know why you are getting downvoted.

The game looks amazing and the gunplay is fun.

Other than that, meh.

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Lol peeps downvoting because they hate good writing?

And yet you had no problems saying a game sucks because you can't.

Every game has their diehards that refuse to accept criticism about their game. Whatever.

I enjoyed my time with Cyberpunk but by the mid game I realized how much was just straight missing. You start to notice all the things that were obviously cut from the game, like a proper police system, car customization, and tons of areas and quests that seem cut down or all the inaccessible areas that look like they had a designed purpose at some point in development.

I don’t know what the DLC is going to change but if they can fill in some of these holes the game might live up to its potential.

It flat out didn't work for me on launch but tbh the bigger disappointment was that expectations set didn't match reality. A lot of people were excited for a game that doesn't exist. But that's less tangible than the bugs

I’m 100% convinced that subreddit is just bots and shills. How are that many people posting screenshots and comments about such a boring game from years ago.

The game is still pretty bad, other than the anime bringing in a new audience idk what the "turnaround" was supposed to be

Turn-around? Where?

They released a product in an abyssmal state, and put in the work to fix their own fuck-up.

And the managers gave themselves millions in bonus for releasing the bugged piece of burning trash it was. They're just another publisher.

It's stil an empty game with a mediocre open world. It's like on the level of open world that gta 3 was.

Crazy what anime and a cool soundtrack can do.

I totally agree, it's infuriating that gamers are so accepting of these zero standards and praising Devs for 'fixing' games years after an initial broken launch. Standards that have been forced upon us and the majority just shrug with a "that's the way it is" statement. It'll likely only get worse as the industry pushes these standards incrementally lower. Bought a new boat that sunk on launch, but hurray the manufacturer refloated the carcass and patched it up over the following 2 years - absolute legends.

Oh! So when it changes for the better that's an admissible point, but because you played it that long ago and it was less content rich, that's the merit to base it off in the current stage of the games life.

Makes total sense /s

Cyberpunk was made by inexperienced amateurs. You can't go in all buildings Like any other Game. For example GTA5, Watch Dogs, etc

take a shot every time Lymbasy says "inexperienced amateurs"

i went from liking their theme song to being emo whenever it plays.

but damn... i really cant support cdpr after how bad their initial cp launch went

It seems you joke went over some peoples heads.

Seriously, whoever at CDP greenlit the anime was an absolute genius. Especially spending the money to work with a top-tier studio. Hiring Trigger could not have been cheap, but it turned out to be the best possible advertising they could get.

I watched it too but it was kinda meh, what was so great about it?

They will have problems with the next game, people will be like " remember cyberpunk 2077? I will wait and see if the game is good or not."

Thats totally fair to judge a game after it's release. They released it like that after all. Are we already excusing releasing alpha status games again? Pathetic.

>what it could have been

What it could have been in your dreams ...

This is great news, but it's not enough to lift GDPR from the floor. Stock is still down, stagnated and the company has devalued by 70%.

Their cash reserves are not great as well apparently. They have a very thought battle ahead of them.

I think Cyberpunk beats TLoU2 in the "biggest' hate it vs love it' internet arguments in the history" award.

And the game still sucks in my opinion.

Many bugs, crashes on ps5. And no gameplay updates to make the game be more modern. At its core for me it has far cry 3 gameplay.

I got the plat for it so i saw all the game had to present and i still give it a 7/10. The only good thing about it is the story and atmosphere.

Never preorder any game from them again.

I imagine the discussion went somewhat like this.
- RIOT made a nice anime and it was even watched by people that do not play games and they downloaded league. Let's do that.
- So what is the budget for this project? i know few cheap studios that could make this anime.
- Budget? I i don't know such a word.
- Say no more.

We should support the ones who fuck up and try to actually fix it. Too many in that same situation just abandon the game or or make half steps to make us think they care

Loud minority has spoken.

Irony is that if anything, your comment proves my point. If someone had issues with the game they will always come forth and complain about them.

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But it's still a shit game?? I swear cdpr employees spam these posts now and again

my counter argument is despite all the fixes they did. they never did come clean. they overpromised and downright lied to us gamers.

if the game is "just buggy", fine i m on board with what you say. yeah i will support a company that tries their best to make their game better when their launch was shitty.

a good example is godfall. not exactly buggy but their devs improved the game a huge lot. as far as i know, they did not lie.

lying and misleading. dishonesty. i can forgive bugs to an extent, i can even forgive cut content to an extent. but good will is hard to earn.

try and view it this way.

you have 2 contractors fixing up 2 rooms you own. one says everythings fine and the jobs complete. the second one sheepishly tells you they fucked up and need time fixing it.

upon inspection the first one is also fucked. both contractors agree to fix their rooms anyway.

which of the 2 is the shittier contractor? i might not be happy with both of them but i might rehire the honest one for a new contract. the first one? fuck that guy. and that guy is CDPR

You just don't get it, Bro. If you think it's meh, people explaining isn't gonna change anything. Probably just not for you

Damn, I'm sure they will miss you

It was greenlit and being shopped around before Arcane came out

No mans sky is still hardly a game. It's a glorified errand simulator and soulless open world. Cp2077, even with it's faults at lunch, was a more complete video game than nms today

I watched the anime because of the game and absolutely loved it, it was quite emotional towards the end.

I wish this guy was joking. Just look at his comment history.

lol seems like i ve poked a hornets nest.

cdpr fanbois and simps have come to defend their beloved company.

That’s just sad and a huge loss for gaming as a whole

This isn't debate club lol as for calling them liars, the only thing they lied about was the game being in a finished state, which wasn't the devs, it was the higher ups. So you're "argument" falls flat unless you say the boss that pays their checks lied and said it was done. We all had things we wanted out of the game that they never said was a part of it then people got mad when it wasn't there. The game was good from the start. The console versions were fucked but pc was mostly fine. They needed more time to optimize it for consoles because they game was just too much for last gen. Cry about it while I enjoy one of the best games they've ever released I'm not debating you loser

What exactly did they lie about? What promises did they make that aren't in the game? Genuine question.

From how I see it they overpromised because they overestimated how the game would turn out and have since gone out of their way to make the game what they intended it to be. Same goes for No Man's Sky - there's alot that gets cut because of the whim of an incompetent higher-up, there's alot of changes made throughout the process, there's alot that goes into making a game and they've done their best to complete their vision of it since it's disappointing release.

It’s plenty more than that and tons of people have enjoyed it immensely. Get over yourself

if you google it, theres a few results

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2020/12/14/cdpr-apologizes-for-hiding-cyberpunk-2077s-horrible-last-gen-performance/?sh=7fae93a32c38

this is one.heres the main quote thats a huge ass lie

“Speaking earlier this week on Wednesday (and transcribed by Seeking Alpha), Kaciński said that Cyberpunk 2077's performance on the base PS4 and Xbox One consoles is "surprisingly good, I would say, for such a huge world." The CEO went on to say that although the performance on these base consoles is lower than their "pro" counterparts (the PS4 Pro and Xbox One X), it's still surprisingly good.”

surprisingly good?

thats a god damn lie.

i know a lot of people here are CDPR lovers. ngl, i too loved CDPR. they were the golden child of the gaming world. we needed CDPR to succeed. i wanted CDPR to succeed. CDPR's success is a big fuck you to the likes of EA and Ubisoft. they were the chosen one.

when other game devs were making collectors edition boxes. CDPR's witcher physical copies were all technically collectors edition with tons of goodies but with a "standard box" price tag.

if EA fucked up. i wouldnt really care so much. i was fanboying CDPR hard. for them to be dishonest its was a harsh slap.

over promising is one thing. outright saying the game is fine and releasing it as it is from a company that should know better....

Check that users comment history. It's not that the joke went over my head, I just don't like the Gschmäckle that accompanies it.

Maybe three years of whiny reddit Gamers jerking off onto each other is enough and people just want to have fun.

And a fucking awesome story told in a really creative way? Meh to whiny Gamers who are still trying to ride a three year old circlejerk

Or they could have actually implemented all the features the promised for the supposed revolutionary next gen game.

But was it before the Arcane production started? I doubt it.

That should be good example of:

how to NOT release unfinished product

how to handle fuckups

Good for them, hope for DLC

Lol, i ask for an explanation, you don't bother with it and dismiss my question entirely....how nice....

It would have been better if you said nothing at all.

Sure, but it doesn't really apply as an inspiration in that case. Arcane wasn't the first video game series to be proposed.

emotional stories require you to form a connection with the character (s), something you clearly didn’t do whether it’s because you were skipping around/not paying attention/not taking it seriously/something else.

cyberpunk is an incredible tragedy, but not everyone ‘gets it’. that’s not an insult or personal attack, it’s just that everyone has different tastes and yours probably just doesn’t align with edgerunners.

Considering „open world“ as a concept has always been boring to me and „stylistic shooter“ sounds great I parse this comment as a glaring review.

If you already formed an opinion about it being “meh” after watching it then what’s the point in asking that troll bait ass question?

It would have been better if you said nothing at all.

The game is still a mess overall.

/golfclap. They "fixed" their BROKEN af game to make it playable.

THATS a "turn around" ?????

Oh hell naw.

So you're telling me you expected too much out the game and got disappointed, got it.

I thought people would learn the lesson of the hypetrain by now. I got the game on launch but knew basically nothing about it beforehand besides "Keanu is in it" and despite the bugs I encountered (I got lucky, it wasnt that much) I thought the game was thoroughly enjoyable. It was not revolutionary, but it didn't have to be.

Why should I care what some people on the internet said? Its on you for seeing a game with a city and guns and cars and expecting it to have wanted system and civilian ai like gta whatever it means. Doesnt mean that this game needs this system at all, I think its useless because the game is about various side quests and main quests. About the marketing thing, I think if they didnt botch the ps4 launch they would be 100% fine, it was a travesty that the ps4 version got released, didnt expect such a fuck up from a company this caliber. The other shit that people say that proves somehow that cyberpunk is an incomplete game is dogshit in my opinion. On launch day you get an easy 90 hours game for standard pricing, for me without bugs on PC with top notch quests and narrative and okay gameplay

Making the anime was an amazing move, but i still dont understand why people liked it so much.

I gave up halfway trough because of how boring and cliche the story was. Art style was okay...

In my opinion Arkane was a wayyyy beter show and i hate league of legends.

Immersion can mean hundred different things, I think final fantasy 7 remake is immersive, but when I swing a sword in front of a npc in town nothing happens. Its fine to say that you would like to have a feature in the game, every game can have a feature added to be better, but its misleading and bullshit that people expect this feature because they have GTA in their mind, give scathing remarks about incompleteness of the game in every fucking post. This game doesnt need this feature, its ok as it is and the city is immersive without going on shooting sprees.

Yeah honestly its annoying that ever my game is doing open world. I dont want to spend 100 extra hours in every game to collect stuff thrown all over the huge fucking map which has absolutely no use in the game aside from prolonging playtime.

This guy gets it.

I'm not one to waste my time explaining why people should like things the don't. That never goes anywhere.

Exactly my man, people who ask those questions just want to argue and insult the thing they don't like. I'm not gonna waste time explaining why that thing means something to me, to someone like that

Ah that's interesting. I didn't follow much of the build-up to the game before it was released as I never really fell for the hype, I've still not fallen into the Keanu Reeves hype in general. What I've heard now is that they've made it a good game, ofcourse games should be functional and work as promised upon release, however I think the work they've put in to fix it somewhat makes up for the initial release - once again I bring it back to No Man's Sky.

I don't view CD as a holy patron saint of gaming or anything, it's just another company but as of right now it's one I have a positive view on as I think they seem to be intent on making good games rather than churning them out.

The game is awesome and has updare coming up. Ofcourse it's bringing money lol. Besides it was made for good PCs and not flimsy consoles, so majority will moan about it.

yeah its good that you're not attached to them as i was. they really had a very good PR with gamers in general.i m against pre-orders but for CDPR they had so much good will with gamers that i would actually pre-order from them.

its really a shame on what happened.

fixing the game... its been 2-3 years... a friend of mine bought the game this year and his playthru was buggy..

also if you play the game, you get to see a montage of you and your companion. my first impression of the montage is not "whoa thats cool". instead i thought... hmm pretty sure this is cut content.

later onwards in the game you meet a guy that you WORKED FOR in the montage. but in that meeting it appears to be your first meeting with him. that confirmed to me that the content was cut.

its ironic. i m a person who's bloody invested with CP2077, which made me react negatively to them even more. the irony is that the people who still love cyberpunk are the ones who would shit on me for pointing out how badly CDPR fell.

It's interesting just how invested people got into Cyberpunk, I never thought it looked all that unique. A first person shooter with some Watchdogs-esque features.

It's interesting to hear about the bugs being a problem, Skyrim is one of the buggiest games out there but it's never affected my enjoyment of the game but I saw the way it lagged on PS4 and I remember thinking "holy shit this is abysmal", at the same time they're damned if they do damned if they don't as 1 they'd miss out an alot of money only releasing on next-gen 2 you'd get a large group of people on last-gen complaining and saying they'd rather a laggy game than nothing at all.

I'm also not a fan of preorders, there's two games I've pre-ordered in my life and they were Kingdom Hearts 3 (childhood fan of the franchise and waited years for it so I was happy) and Elden Ring (huge FromSoft fan, love Souls, Bloodborne, and Sekiro), Elden Ring I was disappointed by but people to this day sing its praises so highly I think basing my purchase on people's reviews would've only made me more let down when I got around to playing the game. I thought FromSoft would never miss and ER was an unfortunate one for me.

Then don't?

i guess mine was a 2 pronged overlap of my interests. there arent too many cyberpunk type games out there, most futuristic games available usually go full geek and far off into future scifi like anarchy online and eve online.

the other was i was invested with CDPR as a company. also it was supposedly story focused rather than action focused, with many RPG elements where you had different perks to choose from.

skyrims bugs sometimes are small enough that they dont detract from the game. and the mods certainly help out a huge deal. also skyrim is full of content. to compare, skyrim is a complete game but buggy, while cp2077 is incomplete, buggy and overpromised.

in cp2077, we have cops that literally appear in the game. theres no animation. they just spawn right in front of you if you so happen to look in that direction. we also have a perk that gives you a buff while within water.

which, in the entire game you're in the water for just ONE small particular area and only in that one time.

one bug that i had bricked an optional sidequest. i dont know when it bricked i dont know how it bricked, i do not know which save i should use to revert the brick. but even if i did i m pretty sure i would have lost tons of hours of progress.

i really wanted to love the game. i gave it a fair shot. it had the potential to be a game that i would love but everything compound on one another made me just have a bad taste in my mouth. anyway i would really like to thank you for just talking to me about it in a civil manner.

Why do people forgive these companies just because they fix the games well after release? All that does is allow this laziness to become the industry standard.

Arcane ain't that special dude

Do they? I felt like I was basically repeating the same formula 90% of the time and was hoping for a more branched narrative like in the Witcher games tbh.

But im a completionist and trophy hunter and since the last decade or so games are getting longer and longer. Just because its open world doesnt mean that the world is good, its mostly empty aside from 1 npc for stupid fetch quests. There are not many open world games which use open world in a good way.

While not often said enough the anime really helped shed a light on Night City as it impacts the world. The overall story of C2077 and V was bland but the world genuinely felt lived in as you watch people succumb to their vices everywhere you look.

Night City was beautiful, tragic, and the city itself changed the lives of everyone in the game, except for V. I think that's why it's so hard to connect with the game. Because you control all of V's choices, Night City doesn't feel like it's in control of you.

Something like this is 3+ years in the making. I found an article from Jan 2020 showing trigger was on board before the game even launched. Before they can announce partnerships like this things have to be approved in the pipeline for a while or you risk bad press if it falls through.

https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/25/21303233/cyberpunk-2077-anime-edgerunners-netflix-studio-trigger-2022-release-date

Edit: Heck even Arcane was pitched between 2014-2015. It took 8 years to come out, but it wasn't from an already existing anime studio so developing strategies for how to make it probably took some major logistics to do in house.

So you have aspergers, got it.

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Cyberpunk 2077 was somewhere in the back of my head as "probably play this eventually" with no urgency, with the release well behind. Then my buddy and I decided to watch the Edgerunners anime. Bought the game the next week lol.

It's mid as fuck

>Immersion can mean hundred different things

What I described breaks immersion regardless of this point

>every game can have a feature added to be better, but its misleading and bullshit that people expect this feature because they have GTA in their mind

No, people expect the feature because it's literally in the game and was very poorly executed at launch... You keep making this imaginary connection to GTA like that's the only game genre with police in it lol.

>give scathing remarks about incompleteness of the game in every fucking post. This game doesnt need this feature, its ok as it is and the city is immersive without going on shooting sprees.

Again, has the feature, and was definitely incomplete, even the devs admit they missed the mark on several features in game, so I don't really know what you're defending.

I liked the game, I think it did a lot of things right, doesn't mean I have to ignore what it did wrong still.

There are a few main side quests that are pretty cool.

The Perelez side quest comes to mind. There's also one where you rescue a fixers kid so they can go to dinner or something which is somewhat amusing.

> I'm one of the lucky ones that experienced very few bugs

Unless your some enlightened person playing on a different build than everyone else than this is utter bullshit.

Most of the real complaints about the game are of stuff that was fundamentally broken across all systems. Everyone can look past the system optimization stuff like bugged reflections or T poses, or wrong objects loading in wrong places.

If you played this game at launch you had to have endured missing or very basic AI for most NPCs (no traffic AI, no COP AI), an ultra buggy crafting system (that was unintentionally making everyones characters god tier with free stats on attachments), stuff that completely broke the game like the rocket launcher that put everything it hit to sleep including bosses (which in cyberpunk is the exact same as being dead), and driving so bad it was completely reworked (went from bad to mid tier lol), to list only few of the worst examples.

I have no doubt you enjoyed the game, good for you, so did i somewhat (after i lowered my expectations accordingly) but you people need to stop with the BS about the state this game was in, if it was that great it wouldnt have required a whole year of bug fixing.

Cyberpunk is set in an open world though. You’re playing an open world game with that as a concept

It is a pretty common comment that some people just did not run into that many bugs.

Personally I ran the game on a 1060 3gb and ran into many visual bugs like tposes, with only one crash and nothing gamebreaking... compared to my experience playing fallout new vegas and skyrim on a ps3 I feel like I had no issues lol.

Is that German

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You werent lucky. You were blind.

No NPC AI for most NPCs outside of quests, very very very basic AI for every enemy including bosses.

Literally zero traffic AI.

Zero cop AI, trigger cops and they just spawn around you, even inside walls if you were inside a building.

Bugged crafting, super easy to even unintentionally create a borderline unkillable character by just playing the game normally without paying attention to what crafting is doing to the stats of the items your making.

Half the perks bugged.

Rocket launcher that puts everything it touches to sleep in 1 hit including bosses...

A whole "hacking" system with 5mins of total thought put into it which allowed you to just deal with any encounter by just standing behind a wall and make every enemy kill each other (in a game that already could not provide you with enough of a challenge to justify taking this aproach to begin with, because of all the broken/missing AI on enemies)

You must have been playing the game with blinds on too to not notice all the objects loading out of place or missing, or all the T posing or bugged reflections xD

I mean, yeah, I don’t play games I don’t want to. I can still say I don’t like the repetitive nature open world games have to fall back on. I don’t even dislike the idea of an open world, it’s just that filling a 8x8 grid with content is 8 times more work than filling a 1x8 corridor with content. And as we are unwilling to spend 300$ on games the content on the grid is usually less developed than content on the corridor.

Most people I've seen that rag on open world games are almost always of the opinion that they all suck u less there is an activity such as a dungeon every 20 ft.

>Unless your some enlightened person playing on a different build than everyone else than this is utter bullshit.

Nah, most people who played cp3077 on pc didn't experience much bugs. You're way too much into the circle jerk if u still believe otherwise. This entire coment reads like someone that hates anything they can cause they think it's popular and lacks any substance in what they're saying

The main side quests with named characters all have a lot of depth with full of character building and back story. All of them have sort of a progression. Rivers story comes to mind. I guess they repeat the say formula as much as a story as a beginning middle and an end lol.

It's no where near the game it originally claimed to be, not even close, like even by a little

I mostly agree, But like I said. CDPR set themselves in a position where everyone considered them as next best AAA open world studio. Ris a good open world developer, might be the best in open world crime genre. But their greedy anti consumer choices drove away many people from gta and they wanted something as the next replacement for gta. Everybody considered CDPR as the industry darling before CP 2077 released. Even CDPR were riding the hype. They didn't put any effort in distinguishing themselves from gta or R. The founder of CDPR said that the quality of CP 2077 will match the quality of RDR 2. You might not care about what people thought think about a particular product or company,but if they pay 60 dollars for a video game, they are gonna expect that quality. The owners of both base ps 4's and Xbox didn't receive that quality. The game released at end of 2020, only fewer people owned next gen consoles at that time. So, The complaints from owners of base ps4's and xbox's would have been way more compared to other platforms.

Riding a circle jerk? Or being able to recognize when a game is embarrassingly bad

For very different reasons, everyone agrees tlou2 has some of the best gameplay systems in video games right now, 2077 has ugh... Keanu reeves.

They sure have but to pretend it’s anything else but a shooter is bad faith

>!I am still entirely adamant that david was a fucking idiot pining over lucy when he had the most true of ride-or-die love interests RIGHT THERE!<

I was talking more the contract side quests, a lot of them felt very samey with no real pay off in world. Compare that to the Witcher where you'd have a contract to kill a warewolf and you get a plot with a decision that impacts the world in some way.

There are some quests like that too like the one about the prisoner shooting a BD. Or going to save a monk.

Don't get me wrong, I love the Withcher, but that game also had a lot of irrelevant side quests where you just hold down witcher senses and do the same thing.

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Not arguing in favor of paint by numbers open world games, I just found the statement "I don't want to spend 100 extra hours in every game" hilarious, as if they're being forced at gunpoint to collect every widget on the map.

Get over yourself. Cdpr delayed all single player content and cancelled the planned multiplayer and went on an apology social media tour for what then? If not the 1+ years worth of bug fixing?

Circle jerk? Honey my opinion comes from first hand experience playing this game during and after launch.

Im not gatekeeping anyone from enjoying it. But saying it had no bugs or you experienced very few is total nonsense. Just be honest and say you can look past them because you enjoyed it so much.

Either that or you simply did not play it at launch.

Can it run on base ps4?