Geoff Keighley is brutal lolSubmitted by x2FrostFire t3_1274g2f in gaming
angelkrusher t1_jecm2n1 wrote
The industry in my opinion is making a fool of itself. They're letting the biggest publishers hubris take down what once was a great show and what could be again. Sega even wanted to attend, and they are not a small publisher. Then they pulled out because everybody else is jumping ship.
And what is the replacement? Random corny shows when most of the publishers don't even have their shit together.
IGN summer of gaming was absolute shit last year. I won't even bother tuning in this year. The interviews were at some point so bad nobody had anything to say.
You have the game awards which is generally a couple of stars and 100 trailers and it's much much better.
Maybe there's more insight out there, but I don't get it. Every industry has their trade shows and celebration and presenting their wares to the industry and the buying public. But we're getting just a bunch of random YouTube videos which we get all through the year anyway?
Trash.
OlTommyBombadil t1_jecmn1h wrote
Nothing really to get. These companies have two options: spend millions and do an in-person event or make a YouTube video that gets the same amount of attention and not spend millions
Sucks, but that’s the world in 2023
(Just to be clear, I hate it and I’m not trying to say you’re wrong)
angelkrusher t1_jecp06h wrote
I got what you're saying, all good
Like I mentioned Sega and some other companies actually wanted to do something. Honestly they still can, but they just need a new strategy. These guys only job is to figure out a new format and I won't say it simple, but man it's been years and no dice. Sad.
It's not just games either, a big photography show in New York changed formats and it was such a disaster it got canceled as well.. after the first revision got canceled. Welp.
Sigh...imho, there should not not be an E3
At least I have my memories of bring there in Dreamcast heyday, random trip with two friends no car and have to hitchhike in LA. Those were the days 😂
marioquartz t1_jeezvtu wrote
For a lot of people there are ZERO diference in both options. They mayority of people watch the events by streaming. And that was previous to the pandemic. I dont see any diference to how was 10? years ago.
real_horse_magic t1_jeczzne wrote
Found the head E3 guy’s Reddit account.
Real_Mousse_3566 t1_jedjo06 wrote
Geoffs shows are just trash man. Accept it. Their shows doesnt come close to the peak of E3
Xacktastic t1_jedtw33 wrote
Of course. Nothing will, we are well past the conference era. No point with telecommunication so readily available, cheaper, and easier.
canad1anbacon t1_jegl80x wrote
I think Geoff's shows have been getting better. They actually had pretty decent reveals last year
Not as good as E3 at it's best, but E3 itself won't be able to top past E3. The big publisher's just don't need these events anymore
PalmBlock t1_jed9rwu wrote
GDC is the industry trade show now.
E3 was marketing padding it’s budget and launching their marketing campaigns for the fall/winter releases. It’s main purpose was to get gaming magazines (remember those?) running previews of games coming out at the end of the year, or building the hype train for a future release. There was a minor aspect of retailers and publishers talking about shelf space, total orders, marketing materials and such, and you had small publishers that were shoved to the back and sides of West hall or stuck in the dregs of Kentia Hall (often joked as “can’t afford a better hall”) trying to negotiate some retail buys but that’s pretty much it.
GDC basically stole the industry specific panels and learning workshops.
The changing nature of game retail killed the retail meetings. GDC also stole whatever remained of this part of the show.
And the death of game magazines and transition to the internet only of game journalism eliminated the need for an industry only show.
So no, the industry isn’t making a fool of itself, it’s performing a mercy on a show that was basically useless to the current and future marketplace that only survived as long as it did by virtue of established inertia and nostalgia, sliding into irrelevance. Would it have lasted a bit longer without Covid? Sure, but the writing was on the wall by 2017 so it didn’t cut much short. The only ones who should be lamenting it’s passing are marketing douchbags who now no longer have justification for millions in their budget and the local cocaine dealers, prostitutes, and bikini models that now don’t have that sweet summer paycheck.
Those random corny shows and game awards filled with trailers give them more bang for their buck marketing wise. And the closed off nature of E3 and game journalism moving to the digital space made it so E3 was basically a bunch of Youtube videos whose only difference from any other time of the year was an E3 logo plaster at the start and end by the last few shows anyways.
If E3 wants to survive and become relevant again it should become a PAX knockoff. Open it up to the public, demo showcase, etc.
Or it’ll stay trash as an industry trade event nobody really cares about. And like trash it’ll end up in a dumpster and forgotten about.
GENOCIDE_324 t1_jedkot6 wrote
You're a little...oddly passionate about E3's demise, why?
adwarkk t1_jee50p4 wrote
It's simply cold realistic take upon situation. That's all there is to it. E3 isn't some sacred symbol to industry, it was functional tool, and as this person pointed out, functionalities of it aren't really there any more.
So no, giving more proper extended answer isn't "being passionate about demise". He just gave properly detailed answer why.
fartfartfartfartfarl t1_jedw7l7 wrote
>The industry in my opinion is making a fool of itself
The classic redditor who has a deep insight into how to run international businesses.
It's not a matter of opinion. These giant corporations don't make decisions on a whim.
Or do you still think of giant corporations as your buddies that make games?
KingTut747 t1_jedx93s wrote
Not sure what planet you’ve living on this century.
But on earth, most things have been replaced or changed due to the alternatives presented by telecommunications technology.
Oiljacker t1_jedp4yr wrote
for real i have been excited about e3 in pre covid era, but this time i called its fall. they fucked themselves over. game awards are much more better than the shit we be getting these days
Hunter_X_101 t1_jedqz6e wrote
I'm interested to see what Summer Game Fest does over the next few years - in the same way that The Game Awards replaced the VGAs, if they play their cards right and keep the big names on board it's possible we could see a Summer Game Fest Expo as a compliment to the longer online event at some point (though I certainly don't think it's likely to happen in the short term).
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