arsehead_54 t1_j27y58w wrote on December 30, 2022 at 7:53 AM

Reply to comment by SilenceFailed in Rant: All single player games should have an easy way to quit to desktop and save as-is. Too many games require exiting to main menu and then quitting from there -- with an obligatory "ARE YOU SURE - YOUR PROGRESS WILL NOT BE SAVED" warning. Save the progress and quit -- it's not that hard. by BBorNot

While that sounds like a good description of what happens when you close a game, it doesn't account for why you can't have a single button from the pause menu which does all that for you in one fell swoop.

SilenceFailed t1_j283505 wrote on December 30, 2022 at 8:58 AM

Memory. How many objects do you think are rendered in every frame? Given most frames fill in under 20ms, yeah, that's a lot. Serializable data classes have to get moved to RAM before that occurs. Since most modern OS', outside of Linux, have no swap buffers, your memory is already clogged with the games data. Long save on quit, or go through the menus. Your call. We ditched long load screens in favor of efficiency.

arsehead_54 t1_j286xqg wrote on December 30, 2022 at 9:50 AM

And I'm saying fine take the 2 seconds to close properly, rather than make me manually wait through the studio logo and menu animations before I can hit exit for a third time

cj122 t1_j28w9zp wrote on December 30, 2022 at 2:26 PM

I mean it would be black for the section of the logo and such. A few games do it that way actually but I always think they are busted when they hang on a black screen for over ten seconds when the rest of it doesn't have much to any loading.

SilenceFailed t1_j296oh0 wrote on December 30, 2022 at 3:41 PM

Ok, now I see what you're saying. You don't want to go through the title and splash screens again. Well, that is an engine thing. Think Unity splash screens. You don't have the option to avoid those because it's free. For some developers, it's a loading system. It's what loads all of the main menu UI. Again, you're missing the issue that I'm making you aware of. Memory makes that constraint. Currently. Unless we get a new OS or devs start switching to Linux, it's not going to happen.