peko_ OP t1_j6kmh4b wrote
Reply to comment by Sivick314 in the first thing that makes me not want to play a mobile game. by peko_
i understand the need to make money, but at this point almost all of it is just scummy cashgrabs.
Sivick314 t1_j6kmolu wrote
Yup. I refuse to play that gatcha crap.
darknetwork t1_j6nbhec wrote
yeah, i love the gameplay and character design in both genshin and tower of fantasy. but the fact that i have to spend money or really lucky to play my favourite characters is kinda disappointing.
Tails_chara t1_j6mfcy8 wrote
You should try ones that are not cash grab - namely genshin and honkai. In case of genshin, if you think you need to spend money, you are doing something wrong. The game locks you out on time basis, not difficulty basis, since its extremely easy with right approach. In case of honkai - dont get into all that "ranked" stuff and you are fine. If you can do that you have really fun single player games, especially genshin. Not to mention FREE. Also, there is some grind, but that is literally nothing compared to amy MMO title.
It really depends on gacha game, I've played a lot both, and i dont mind starting another thanks to those two and healthy approach.
I_Just_Need_A_Login t1_j6paokk wrote
Imagine genshin as polished non-monetized non-timegated without standard addiction mechanic practices and instead a one time $60 purchase, with several polished paid expansions down the line. The dream.
Genshin is generous but it's still banking on getting you addicted. Puzzle and Dragons was another generous S tier game plagued with monetization.
magicthegatheringjam t1_j6n2e8c wrote
Yeah Geshin isn't a cashgrab that's for sure
Tails_chara t1_j6pap42 wrote
It exploits peoples need to own, but it doesn't block you from enjoying the game to its fullest other than not owning characters (you can still play them occasionally).
So, like i said, if you at any point want to get your wallet to progress, you are probably playing the game wrong.
B3RS3RK_CR0W t1_j6kuq04 wrote
Yeah, but just make better mobile games. I won't mind ads if they weren't evert ten seconds. I can't tell you how many mobile games I play that seem interesting and fun, but I quit because it keeps preventing me from playing their damn game. You're out of energy? Buy more or watch this ad. You completed the mission? Watch this un-skipable ad that's longer than the mission. Now play that exact same mission over and over with ads that are longer than the gameplay. Hit a wall where you literally cannot progress? Watch fifty ads or spend $10. That'll get you through the next 3 missions before we ramp up the difficulty again and you're back to spending more money/watching tons of ads.
I literally download at least 5 to 10 mobile games a week, just to delete them after three minutes of gameplay. They're not games, they're ads. Mobile gaming has literally become that episode of Southpark where ads take over everything. You see a cool game, but it's not actually what you were shown. It's a completely different thing that is 90% ads. You download a tower defense game, but it's just ads for more mobile games that aren't games. It's all just ads. I just play them for five seconds and then never play them again.
Whatever happened to 8 ball pool, flappy birds, or plague inc.? They were games that I loved and had on my phone for years. There wasn't a grind. There wasn't an energy bar limiting you. Any purchases were all cosmetic. You got 5 to 15 second ads every four or five games. It was fair. Again, these are games that I had on my phone for years. They were getting much more money out of me through ads than all the mobile games I've played in the past three years combined. If the game is fun and I actually get to play it, they'll get ad time from millions of players over the course of years.
CHEIVIIST t1_j6lu8wy wrote
The one that makes me uninstall instantly is when something says free but it actually takes me to an ad. It isn't free if I have to watch an ad.
revstan t1_j6nfv98 wrote
If you download 5 to 10 games a week and havent found a good game it is time to stop downloading.
B3RS3RK_CR0W t1_j6nkn2k wrote
You're right in most cases, but I have a ton of spare time at work.
kevhill t1_j6n817y wrote
Ya and essentially they are targeting children (and their parents money) which makes it even more scummy.
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