I tried getting into to it a few years ago. I also didnt have much experience with MMO's. And well, its an MMO. Meaning there is a step learning curve and grinding. After a few hours I gave up.

You can see walk-thrus of this game on YouTube. And that way you can decide if you really want to play it.

Eh, it's basically a WoW-killer that didn't kill WoW, except it cost a bajillion dollars to produce. It's F2P now, so there's no reason not to try it if you have the time and storage space.

Start with the Sith Inquisitor or Sith Warrior. If I remember correctly, they're supposed to have the better stories. (Research that on your own first. I didn't make it particularly far, and it was a long time ago.)

I played a long time ago and really enjoyed it. You should definitely give it a try!

It's pretty fun even if you play casually. Many of the class stories are superb. However, since it's a f2p mmo, a lot of features that are necessary for "getting ahead" are purchased from the store. like different cosmetic options and some convenience unlocks are only obtainable through the store

This is the way. Walkthroughs or beginner guides are usually the best way to determine if you'll enjoy a game or not. I usually watch beginner guides or something along the lines of "The old Republic in 2022/2023" to get an idea of what to expect from the game.

In a galaxy far, far away?

You need to find a content creator named Swtorista, you can find EVERYTHING you need for this game. She is the number one resource for this game in my humble opinion.

https://swtorista.com/articles/

I’m ready for the remake to be out already. This was one of my favorite games.

I know this is irrelevant but if MMOs are too intimidating, KNIGHTS of the Old Republic is the best game of all time. It’s single player and could probably run on any device you own.

Swtor is basically a single player game. You'll like it. It's standard bioware rpg good times.

I love that game but god damn does it cook my cpu.

Dew it

i have clocked over 1k hours in both WoW and Swtor (but stopped before 7.0, ie the current expansion)

when it comes to mmorpgs, it's all about what you want/expect. are you looking for a full-fledged mmo experience, and if so can you commit the time for group content to upgrade your gear, optimize your build and learn the rotations? if yes, then swtor - in fact, any of the mainstream mmos - will serve you well. although I'd personally go with a more active title, such as Final Fantasy or WoW. Swtor has been on decline for many years now.

are you really just looking for a free 2 play star wars sandbox game that, according to internet, has “great stories”? the class stories really aren't anything special. but by all means go ahead because it is indeed free... kinda.

i like it, i mostly enjoy the different storylines and different choices you can make to shape it, my favorite is Empire Bounty Hunter then Sith and Agent. the expansions are lengthy but worthwhile

Yeah, there are actually a lot of walk-thrus and reviews for this game on YouTube to check out.

If you are a fan of star wars you will love it. The combat system took a bit to get used to, but eventually really enjoyed it

Fun game, the early storyline are fun.

Hehehe it certainly feels like it.

They've made it so you can basically play it like a single player game.

If you just want the different stories you are in for a good time!

Every MMO is supposed to be the WoW killer lol

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Name yourself something VERY close to a character from KOTOR 1 or 2 so that old people don't bother you.

KOTOR was definitely one of the games I have the fondest memories of playing.

I think you mean KOTOR not SWTOR

Yes, I think I may have gotten too excited in my reply. The artwork is terribly alike, no?

Definitely give it a try. En game systems tend to be on the boring side of things, but the leveling is amazing. Focus on class stories and you get a few gripping narratives to get through the next few hundred hours.

Sith warrior, sith inquisitor, smuggler, jedi Knight are really really good, but keep imperial agent for last.

It seriously is one of the best stories ever, if you dot it first nothing will come close in terms of quality in a good while.

Evil space James Bond is simply amazing. You can play the story so many different ways too.

Wouldn't a WoW-killer that didn't kill WoW mean it isn't a WoW-killer? I'm not sure if you're saying it as a good thing or a bad thing. Is it so good that it should have killed World of Warcraft but didn't or are you saying it was just another so-called WoW-killer that failed to live up to expectations and was over hyped?

Why won't they bother you, then?

Well, they're both Star Wars games from the Old Republic era, made by Bioware. Makes sense that it would have similar art!,

The Inquisitor is the only story I've finished so far, and it's amazing. Definately worth the combat that would have been bland even before it was a decade out of date.

If I hopped on this game and saw the eighth K'aarthOnassi walk by I would probably avoid him.

How about you grow a pair and just play it... If you don't like playing it it's not a big deal. Jesus christ

It's an MMO so you're talking a lot of grinding and effort with very little payoff

Because honestly there are not that many MMOs that are actively thriving. Maybe what like 5-6 tops? Every other MMO is empty af.

It was a so-called WoW-killer that was specifically meant to be more successful than WoW. I think they ended up breaking the then-record for the highest-budget game? Or at least they came close. Obviously it was not more successful than WoW and eventually went F2P as a way to boost microtransactions, since subscriptions weren't cutting it.

I was saying it as a bad thing because they spent so much money and had such high aspirations, but ultimately they failed because they were trying to compete with WoW by making WoW.

In my experience, it's not really worth playing unless you subscribe for the monthly fee.

Also, start with Imperial Agent. Best character story out of all of them.

Imperial Agent is what I remember by general consensus to be the best story, but they're all good in their own right.

Guild Wars 2 has been fairly fun and plenty of people seem to be playing it, still.

How about you chill the fuck out??? Like damn he's just asking for second opinions. Literally nothing wrong with that.

you can make your first companion heal you and you can solo the game and enjoy the story.

The history of this game is a bit tragic.

First and foremost it's pretty damn good. I personally found all the main stories engaging for each class. So much so that I played each one. Certainly some of the best storylines I've experienced in MMOs to date.

Side quests/stories are kind of blah, but I've not really played an MMO in which that wasn't the case.

The PVP was the most surprisingly impressive part of the game I enjoyed. Huttball is pretty unique to PVP in an MMO, and subverts your expectation of that experience in a great way. After enjoying the main stories, PVP gave the game staying power that I didn't expect it would have.

The best thing about it is that it really nails the Star Wars aesthetic, feel, and universe. When you charge into battle as a Sith Marauder you feel like the class you're playing in a visceral way. The same is true for most classes. I played a Sith Assassin mostly, and the experience is gloriously devious, sneaky, and lethal.

I believe the downsides to this game primarily came from EA being at the helm. The game has been plagued by problems of various severity for long periods of time. For example, it is created on the Hero Engine which can cause performance issues that will simply never be addressed because it would require an overhaul of the entire engine. They don't have intentions of funding what would be this massive undertaking.

EA is content to sell cosmetics through microtransactions and not ensure expansions are up to the quality they need to be for the asking price. I'm fairly certain their policy is to maintain an adequate player base that still makes the game reasonably profitable through microtransactions without devoting much attention to significant development of the game. They have no ambition to grow the player base significantly or improve the game similarly.

I get it. MMOs take a ton of investment to be successful and profitable, and that's tough to do with strong competition out there. However, as a player I didn't force them to compete in the arena of MMOs. They made that decision knowing the risk I'd assume.

It's a good game, but it's been pretty much relegated to the "maintenance mode" of development. EA isn't willing to invest much further in this game.

The good news is the base game is free at this point, and EA relaxed a lot of the restrictions that were initially placed on F2P players. It's a good time to experience what it did well without sinking money into it unless you want to.

Here's me and a friend with our two stealth classes that we had some great times with.

It’s an excellent game and I think you will enjoy it. Watch a few videos to get a feel for it.

i don't like it that much. its brand of class/skill progression (or lack of) isn't my thing. quite a looker tho.

I love the dialogues - something very refreshing compared to other MMORPGs. I highly recommend getting started with a friend for more diversity in those situations and for group quests.

The way it works is that your character has their own personal goals at each location, but each location also has a bunch of faction goals. So whenever you go to a new place you have 2 main objectives, conquer the location for your faction and pursue leads on your personal goals.

Keep both of those things in mind when you play, it can be very easy to get distracted and try to complete all the quests at every location. Don't be afraid to skip a bunch of side quests and just push ahead to the main objectives asap. Those main objectives are what make the game interesting. Doing all the side quests will burn you out on the game.

Fair. I like it for the various build potentials and the combat is fun. Usually.

I will say SWTOR is okay but I got stuck early in the game and gave up becuase of the leveling mechanism. With FFXIV, I sped run that thing and finished the main story quest in 3 weeks' time all the way to Endwalker before the recent update.

I'm gonna have to defer to FFXIV based on leveling game mechanics.

If you've never played a Bioware rpg then you should know that you need to pick good or evil before you start and then stick to it. You get maximum benefits from your decision either way but you make your life harder by alternating between your choices.

Ill be honest the first one has not aged very well. Choices feel a lot more limited and less impactful then younger me remembered but the story is still great. KOTOR2 holds up though.

Swtor is the least grindy MMO you can find tho you can easily treat it like its single player RPG

Even though it's an MMO, it's very solo friendly. As you progress through the story, just focus on a DPS spec, tank and heal specs are for group content (which you probably won't be doing for a long time) but will slow down how quickly you get through the story. Speaking of, each class as a unique story you play through. I would suggest going through all the stories, you get fun little account unlocks and there's small little ways each of the stories connect to each other. Finally, and this may be something you might not like to hear, I would STRONGLY suggest subscribing for a month or two. The f2p restrictions can be aggressive, and being a subscriber completely removes them, but then reverting to "preferred" (an account that has previously spent money) has less restrictions attached compared to a fully f2p account. During those months you are subscribed you can buy permanent account unlocks that will make the preferred status a lot more bearable.

An Xbox controller will work perfectly with whichever version you're playing. Just remember that the game is buggy on p.c..

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This was my first ever MMORPG and her videos saved my butt. Her YouTube walkthroughs, advice, and tips and tricks make the game more fun. Plus, she’s active and very helpful.

This game was my first ever MMORPG and I loved every minute of it. Also, the people playing on the game are pretty awesome. My Smuggler walked into a Sith camp and was getting hammered. Freakin random group of Jedi players came in, killed everyone, and left the loot for me. Whenever I played I keep an eye for the noobs to pay it forward.

This is a baddass game. I haven't played in a decade but it has a fantastic story behind any class you play.

This game is basically a point and click if you don't take bosses into account. If you have a healer with you, average mobs will never even put you in jeopardy.

However, awesome dialogue, very nice atmosphere, huge maps (maybe even too big), quite diverse, enough planets, nice iconic characters, slightly comedic at times.

Oh, of course since it's EA what you'll get for free is basically a glorified demo. You'll need to pay for the full thing.

Well its free so why not test it?

I'm a huge star wars fan and have been waiting for a proper star wars game with good combat AND content.

Tried this but it's super overwhelming compared to other mmorpg's. On top of that it's rather old and quite clunky which removes all immersion for me.

Then the pay to play restrictions are everywhere hence, f2p is just no fun at all.

Despite being an MMO, you can just treat it as a standard RPG and avoid anything multiplayer.

Honestly, I can see SWTOR being a pretty solid introduction to MMORPGs. If you have any love for Knights of the Old Republic then it's even better. I think the only real concern right now is SWTOR's lifespan.

What features of "getting ahead"? The store offers 99% cosmetics.

Some QoL things can be bought for free players, like extra quickbars or endgame gear authorizations (not the gear itself). But they are only needed if a player wants to dive seriously in the raider/PvP multiplayer part (and are all available automatically for subscribers). So at that point a player should just subscribe.

It's still limited to 1 or 2 cores. They are testing a x64 client, but I think we are at least a year or two away from actually using it.

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There is literally zero grinding required while you play the story. There are more than enough class and planetary arc quests to keep you constantly overleveled. And that's before the multitude of other quests on your path, group content, PvP, etc.

And the game is so easy that you can beat it without ever changing your starting gear. Only time you need to learn to play is if you go into endgame content.

I have never been bothered by others. Unless I slaughtered them in a PvP match and they started butthurt whispers. But it's literally just 1 click to silence them forever.

And any player chat interaction can be disabled in the options to begin with.

The engine issues can be improved a lot with a x64 client. Currently it's being tested for SWTOR on the game's PTS.

Hmm i guess it wasnt as many as i thought. Mainly just the artifact equipment authorization, crew skill slot, and other convenience unlocks, which admittedly you could easily go without.

I do agree with subscribing though. If OP finds himself really enjoying the game, the one-time 60 day subscription is well worth the investment

Not really true for SWTOR. It doesn't matter there. There are even special story titles if you aren't deep into blue or red.

Goes for the Dragon Age series as well.

The game is literally only available on PC.

If you are into it just for the class stories, you don't need to pay a dime. All classes and the first two expansions are included for free players.

Plus a one time subscription gives access to all currently released expansions and the player keeps that access even after the subscription expires and isn't renewed. That's a good amount of extra story if a player wants more after finishing all the F2P content.

That's good. Haven't played in quite some time. It was complained about on the forums for several years to radio silence as the response.

Just focus on having fun.

It's free... so why not. I enjoyed my time with it... but its not the best MMO i've played even though I'm a SW fan.

Keep in mind I havent played it in a very long time... so changes could have happened that improved the game.

If you've never played an MMO I would say don't bother. It's super jarring how clunky it feels.

Surely you've played Mass Effect!?!?

Idk if you like SW lore, you should try it. Every class has their unique stories. Dungeons can be run solo at some point, I guess, if you don't want to play with others.

Nope. I have it on the original Xbox.

You probably mean KOTOR. The game in this thread is SWTOR.

I played it years ago. I had a blast. Plan was to play with my buddy but our schedules never really lined up. So I basically did my characters main story and got to max level. Never did any end game content so can't really speak to that. But just a fun game to quest in while advancing an interesting story.

If you like single-player RPGs, it's a great game. You can stop time with a push of a button to plan ahead, or you can do combat on the fly. Story was great, good characters, and kind of like D&D since 2000s Bioware followed that formula.

If you try it and like it, Dragon Age: Origins is very similar as well...since that was also Bioware in their golden era.

It's an excellent single-player game and a somewhat below-average multi-player game. And I must stress. It's an excellent single-player game. It will be difficult to be disappointed.

Its a great story. Single players with mmo elements. It works just like WoW but is far more immersive, dialogue options. It was made with love from good ole bioware when thyey were one of the best. There are 100s of hours of gameplay. One protip subscribe to it. It opens a lot of game features and its not expensive Ps fashion game is strong in this one

Oh... Duurrr... yours in an MMO? I've seen people at a bar I frequent, okay that on laptops. Seems fun.

Really? I think they made two expansions free pretty recently then, I remember playing not so many years ago and everything was still capped at lvl 60. I remember I got there with my sith juggernaut way before even hinting at the fact that >!you eventually kill your master. !<

Anyhow, class stories are very nice and the dialogues go from grim dark to utter comedy. I remember this game as another huge wasted occasion for a masterpiece.

I think they gave F2P access to the first two expansions (Rise of the Hutts, Shadow of Revan) around 3 years ago. And that raised the free players cap to 60. Used to be 50, which was the cap at game launch.

Is good.

I really like it. Obviously better if you can get a group together, but even the single-player instances and missions are pretty good. I like most of the campaign stories (republic Trooper and Smuggler were a little lackluster to me). Cutscenes and dialogue is great and there are some jokes and situations that have no right to be that entertaining.

> QoL things can be bought for free players, like extra quickbars

Quickbars so you can use abilities is NOT QoL, it is P2W.

You have enough quickbars as a free player for all the skills you would use. Especially since you are capped at 60 and won't have all abilities anyway.

Those in the shop are extra ones on top of the free. As a subscriber I didn't even use half of the available quickbars you get.

Yeah, this. You can 100% play this game as if it was a series of single-player RPGs if you don't want to engage with the online community.

There will be times and places where other players are obviously around, but you don't need multiple people to play together. You can level up all on your own, and these days you can keep up with the story just playing the story missions and not bothering with any of the side quest stuff.

It plays as a single player game mostly and the story is very good. if you are fan of star wars then you should at least play the story of any of the classes you like, i loved every story i played through the voice acting was great and had some really good moments.

Not played this in 6 - 8 years and I still miss huttball, it was such a fun pvp mode and I wasn't big on pvp

This is a great story driven game and MID MMO. You can play like a single player game for story but its better if you have a subscription

Pick a class that has access to stealth and play one of the better stories first. Both are important, but I'd say stealth is the most important factor. There is a LOT of excessive combat and stealth skills make the experience dramatically better.

No

You can play it alone or cooperatively just fine. No need to do the MMORPG stuff if you do not want to. Later on, especially in the late game this is rather common and required, though.

It's really just a joke that anyone who played KOTOR 1 and 2 is old now

Dual wield mastery with force speed upgrades and the adrenaline stim.

My main was getting 8 lightsaber slashes per turn against the last boss.

Absolutely solo shredded the final fight with a lightsaber blender.

Edit: nevermind. This is the MMO and not KOTOR