Submitted by KonoDoesArt t3_10qbauq in gaming

Like, instead of going and making a new game, a studio instead takes an old game that used to be popular, slightly updates graphics (sometimes majorly, but usually just slightly, if even at all), and sells it again for $60+. It's minimal effort, and an obvious cash grab. Why does this practice get so much praise?

Like with Dead Space rn, it's EVERYWHERE with people just worshiping it. Game already came out in 2008, and it's not like we resurrected some game from the 80s and made it go from 8-bit to fancy 3D with modern gameplay, it's the same game that came out in 2008, just a little prettier.

Why is it a big deal?

Edit: For all the people saying "You don't understand the difference between a remaster and a remake!" -- I genuinely don't care what the difference is. Both options are sleazy, slimy shit that people shouldn't put up with unless the game is something like Link's Awakening that went from ancient technology to newer hardware / gameplay / etc. I don't think you can even buy a Gameboy anymore. Dead Space going from 3/4 to 8 on graphics settings is uh... nothing. It's the same game, just prettier. Just download Reshade.

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Crimsonclaw111 t1_j6oyqdv wrote

Because the remake came out good.

Good game is a good game.

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Cult_Of_Anubis t1_j6oyvi8 wrote

I think you’re confusing remake with remaster and vice versa. A Remake is a new game built from the up based on the original. A remaster is just a glorified port.

And “a little prettier” is a mild assessment. The game got a graphical overhaul using modern technology, it’s just not as dramatic as say RE2 remake since the original RE2 was a PS1 game from 1998 with fixed camera tank controls and pre-rendered backgrounds

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azuth89 t1_j6ozfxb wrote

A huge number of people put massive stock in graphics. For that group, playing something they already liked with better graphics is a fantasy come true.

A second group that helps make these popular is the crowd that didn't get started gaming early enough to catch the first release or even own consoles that can easily play them. For that crew they're seeing a good game for the first time and...yeah, of course they like it. Deadspace is a great example, there are a BIG chunk of gamers out there that weren't able to play a horror game 13 years ago and it's a legend, of course there would be interest in getting to play it now across teens, 20-somethings and older folks who missed it the first time around and the updated graphics just make it all the more appealing.

Mix those together and a fair chunk of people will buy it.

Now, I need to add another item here: Most "professional" video games reviews that are heaping praise on these are done by various media outlets which depend HEAVILY on video game advertisements for their revenue. Whatever the big sales push is from a developer, it's going to be well reviewed by all those outlets. If it isn't, they're not going to keep getting ad revenue for long. It's the same reason car and driver basically virtually never gives a bad test drive review, whatever industry you want to pick.

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eatpocketsand t1_j6p0t28 wrote

Good game is a good game. Also remakes are a great way for publishers to test interest, i'm betting for a brand new Dead Space in a couple years

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zillskillnillfrill t1_j6p4ytp wrote

Absolutely, companies like EA are just testing the waters. Considering that for a while they've just been relying on their guaranteed high sales games at thw cost of every other IP they own. Seems to me like a change of management. I'm still waiting for the next skate game 😅

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eatpocketsand t1_j6p5bk1 wrote

Yeah, EA is doing pretty well now. Skate is coming and there's new Dragon Age and Mass Effect on the way too.

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zillskillnillfrill t1_j6p5muj wrote

Not to mention their fantastic star wars efforts. It seems that they actually listened to all the backlash they've have had in the past 10 years

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SepticKnave39 t1_j6p1uxi wrote

>a studio instead takes an old game that used to be popular, slightly updates graphics

That's not a remake, that's a remaster.

A remaster is adding high res textures and upscaling the resolution and such.

A remake is entirely rebuilding the game from the ground up, from scratch. FF7 remake was rebuilt from scratch. Dead space was rebuilt from scratch. Skyrim was remastered.

You aren't understanding the difference between the two. It's a big difference.

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420Pussy_Destroyer69 t1_j6p2z6z wrote

The fact you said "it's the same game that came out in 2008, just prettier" really shows the fact you have no idea what you're talking about let alone the difference between a remake, remaster, and reboot

Dead Space is a Remake, they took the original game and essentially rebuilt it from the ground up and completely overhauled most everything in it, it's not just a graphical update

A Remaster would be something like Okami HD where they basically just took the base game and updated the resolution

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LavitzOfBasil t1_j6p6qtv wrote

Look at a game like Link's Awakening for an example of a remake done right. They took a game from the original game boy and made it look incredible without losing any of the charm from the original. If you can't see the joy in playing something from your childhood that has been remade to look the way you always imagined it then I'm not really sure what to tell you.

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MajorMathematician20 t1_j6ozdkz wrote

I wouldn’t say they get that much praise, if they’re done well then great, but a lot of people share the sentiment that they are low effort.

However, I’d have never played Demons Souls or FFVII without them being remade, nothing against older games I just prefer them with a nice coat of paint. I’d imagine people are either trying it out for the first time or are enjoying the nostalgia trip.

Either way, I wouldn’t worry too much if other people are having harmless fun mate

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dnb_4eva t1_j6p15z5 wrote

Did you play the previous one and did you play the new one?

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Beefsupreme95 t1_j6p5mu4 wrote

I think Demon Souls is a good example of this. The game was fully rebuilt from the ground up and took a game that was really showing it’s age and made it feel like a new game.

Yes a remaster probably isn’t worth it since it’s a fresh coat of paint. But with a remake so much of the game is actually updated and feels much better to play. Less clunk more funk.

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gothpunkboy89 t1_j6pbkne wrote

>It's minimal effort, and an obvious cash grab.

I don't think you know what cash grab actually means. A cash grab is a product primarily or solely designed with the intent of generating money. Which is basically the entire concept of the video game industry.

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>​ Like with Dead Space rn, it's EVERYWHERE with people just worshiping it. Game already came out in 2008,

And they rebuild the entire game from the ground up, including redesigning the ship lay out to make it more fitting.

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SinR2014 t1_j6p9tm1 wrote

Cause Warcraft III Reforged got so much praise

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stamps1646 t1_j6pb8vd wrote

Dead Space Remake has new content, features and a brand new game engine.

You are thinking of Remasters, which Dead Space Remake is not. I would suggest playing the game next time before stating something that's false.

If you mentioned The Last of Us Part 1, then you would be right for it being a cash grab. It is on a new engine, but it's 100% identical to the original and remaster version. This was made to make money for the PS5 version and PC.

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Firvulag t1_j6pdyyw wrote

"Like, instead of going and making a new game"

On Steam alone there is released about 1000 games per month.

New games are made all the time in all kinds of genres.

There is no lack of new or original stuff if that's all you want to play you can easily do that.

Remaking or remastering a classic is great becasue as time goes on it get's harder and harder to play and take of the old games. Games is unique in that it's so hard to go back to old systems to enjoy the old stuff, archiving is difficult.

So remasters and remakes are pretty important in taking care of and enjoy the good stuff that would otherwise be forgotten.

The idea that you think they are "sleazy" and "slimy" means you have fully bought into the dumb gamer outrage culture without actually putting a single original thought into it. You dont even know what you are mad about.

People putting in work and releasing a product that nobody forces you to buy is not sleazy.

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BeanBoy425 t1_j6pf143 wrote

Nobody's going to take you seriously if your an asshole about not understanding the difference between remaster and remake.

Here's my take from someone who has never bought either a remake or remaster.

I can see the appeal of remasters and remakes. Going back to visit old titles can be jarring if the graphics aren't up to snuff and usually the better graphics improve the overall experience. Some people don't worry about graphics, others do.

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biscuity87 t1_j6phvxr wrote

Some of my old games don’t even have even remotely close to modern resolutions… It’s nice when then update some of them.

Some of the ancient ones probably run at like 600 x 800.

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SpoonyDandelion t1_j6pf9qa wrote

For players, nostalgia and fomo.

For gaming journalists, free money.

For the creators, copy paste saves a lot of time and money.

In this world, someone used to sell rocks as pets. Never forget that.

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Nasssi t1_j6p4w0l wrote

I haven't praised any remakes aside from RE and that's because I'm fan of the og games.

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