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WorldLieut8 t1_j75l273 wrote

Reply to comment by nubsauce87 in Terraforming Mars by c0ntr0ll3dsubstance

*no one ever will

FTFY

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Ricky_Rollin t1_j760n1k wrote

This.

It gets too close to the sun, Mars had an atmosphere, but it was stripped of it because of the sun and solar radiation.

What do we honestly think we can do that mother nature couldn’t?

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carly_ray_reznor t1_j768j7e wrote

Not to put too fine a point on it, but Mars is the fourth planet -- further from the sun than Earth.

There's science to part of your statement, but it's not about proximity to the sun, it's about not having a magnetosphere

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Frostfallen t1_j76aaoq wrote

It’s not that it gets too close to the sun - it’s that it lacks a magnetic field to shield its atmosphere from the solar winds.

Earth’s magnetic field is generated by convection currents in its molten iron core - this is suggestive that the core of Mars has either cooled significantly, or has an incorrect elemental composition.

I’ve seen a number of different theoretical approaches to solving the magnetic field issue that are all capable of being developed by our current level of technology; I suspect there will be significantly more solutions with the level of technology we’ll be at when terraforming Mars becomes a serious consideration.

As for generating an atmosphere - that is a (relatively) straightforward process that doesn’t involve much more than towing some ice from the asteroid belt (to get water) and seeding the water with Cyanobacteria and some kind of heat source.

At our current level of technology it’s not science fiction. It’s simply not economically viable.

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B16B0SS t1_j76fowr wrote

>I’ve seen a number of different theoretical approaches to solving the magnetic field issue that are all capable of being developed by our current level of technology;

what kind of resources would it take? will the Earth be depleted of what we need by the time we are able to transport ppl and equipment to Mars? I wish I would be alive when this (hopefully eventually) happen!

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Frostfallen t1_j76r2tt wrote

The theoretical approaches I’ve seen vary quite significantly in answer to these. The one that seems most plausible to me personally (caveat: not a scientist) is basically just a satellite in near-geostationary orbit with a big electromagnet inside - the planet doesn’t need to generate its own field if we generate one to act as a shield. Of course this approach has its own shortcomings (what happens if it breaks down, for example?).

As for happening in your lifetime… that’s doubtful I’m afraid. While rebuilding an atmosphere is relatively simple it’s not relatively quick and would most likely take a couple hundred years. And that’s just the first step in terraforming - “an atmosphere” has to be turned into “ideal atmosphere”, and then the various forms of life necessary to maintain balance need to be introduced and given time to become stable.

Of course - this is all based on current technology. When it becomes a serious consideration who knows what our technological capabilities will be and how that could speed this process up?

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B16B0SS t1_j774z0j wrote

I hope humanity can reach this milestone in the future, sounds very exciting and crazy to discover new lands, would be incredibly exciting!

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etsatlo t1_j760yhm wrote

Took 10s of millions of years to lose it, we can regenerate faster than that

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Obi_Vayne_Kenobi t1_j7686rk wrote

Mother nature will not place a 1 Tesla electromagnet at L1. We can do that.

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