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Sarahthelizard t1_itgif1x wrote

“There’s nothing hateful against trying to limit the existence of trans people, a group who’ve existed as long as human”

> Men are men, even in dresses. Women are women. even in pants

Also bruh that’s just misogyny.

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LailaDawn t1_itgiuci wrote

lol No, bruh, it's not. It's reality.

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Sarahthelizard t1_itgj7ep wrote

Ok where’s the science beyond a few scattered studies?

The vast majority of science, being biology and psychology agrees with trans people, meanwhile transphobes just have pure foolish rhetoric of “boys do this, girls do this”.

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BlakeSteel t1_ith6b89 wrote

Lol. "Boys do this, girls do that" is the whole argument for the trans movement. Trans ideology reinforces social stereotypes more than any other philosophy in history.

If you're a boy who plays with dolls you must be a girl. If you're a girl who likes to go fishing, you're actually a boy. It's science!

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Sarahthelizard t1_ithae0g wrote

That entire paragraph is just you saying “no u actually”, where do butch trans women or feminine trans man fit in your argument?

I don’t wear dresses everyday and neither does my partner, and my trans guy friend has worn dresses because he knows he’s a man regardless of presentation.

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BlakeSteel t1_itlrdce wrote

You know I was being facetious right? You are taking personality traits and turning them into genders. It's glaringly hypocritical to say gender is fluid, and at the same time say that having gender atypical personality traits makes you the opposite gender. It's all nonsense.

What's the real answer? Men are men, women are women. Men can wear makeup, watch rom-coms, wear dresses, etc. Those are superficial things that are created by culture. I doesn't make you a woman. Some men are tough, some are gentle. They are still men. People are individuals with unique desires and personalities. Stop trying to put people in neat little groups. It's pointless, reductive, and dehumanizing.

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Sarahthelizard t1_itltk6b wrote

Good so we both agree that presentation doesn’t matter and it’s a person’s decision to be the gender they wish. Great chat, bestie!

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