Submitted by no7_ebola t3_1165tyf in headphones
no7_ebola OP t1_j96404l wrote
Reply to comment by thatcarolguy in what's up with the moondrop lan? by no7_ebola
did you not read my post at all. from my knowledge people seem to agree a lot of the value are from the spring tips, removing them definitely gives them a larger budget. if other iems can have great tuning as well as a detachable cable I don't see why the chus in particular can't. I mean they're the one who started this $20 iem deal
thatcarolguy t1_j9676kc wrote
It seems your issue with my post is that I did not acknowledge where you said:
>you can argue the spring tips themselves were worth $13
Well I read that and I ignored it because I would not argue that the spring tips are worth $13 because they are not. They are worth pennies to Moondrop. If they drop the spring tips they still have to provide some other tips and and they are not left with a product they can sell for $7 or add a detachable cable for $13 more.
I'm still not sure what you are complaining about. Lots of people said the Chu is bright. Lots of people complained about the non-detachable cable. This addresses both. Of course it's going to cost more. Salnotes has cheap plastic build quality and (to me) sounds far inferior than the Chu.
But none of this personally matters to me because I am all about the Quarks DSP. If they gave it a slight upgrade in sound and/or quality of life for double the price I'd be all over it.
no7_ebola OP t1_j969eb1 wrote
the fact that spring tips themselves are priced at $13 says otherwise. not sure what you're trying to say by they are worth pennies to moondrop. proprietary tips that comes with majority iems as a neccesity comes to mind as a replacement tip.
I'm complaining about how the lan is literally moondrop chu with a detachable cable. some people complained about how "shouty" the chus are and this is what the lan doesn't have but other than that there's is literally nothing that separates it from the chus besides a detachable cable.
I definitely overlooked the metal build's contribution to price but the metal build is absolutely insignificant to the audio quality and only gives a premium feel at best. at $20 asking for a premium feel is a bit stupid.
my point is, the nuances between the LAN and Chus are too insignificant, lan fixes the issue chus had by being more expensive but other iems have proved it can still stay at the same price by knowing where to hold back on budget. my tangzu waners which has a detachable cable, great turning and build quality that isn't garbage is only $14
thatcarolguy t1_j96c941 wrote
If you like your Waner for $14 then I am happy for you. It is still a plastic build, which is fine but it's cheaper.
But if somebody really likes their Chu but wants a detachable cable...they can pay $40. Everybody's happy.
$20 for premium feel is not stupid. If you appreciate premium feel even a small amount it's worth it. If not, Waner. Once again, everyone is happy.
I could be complaining that the Lan is over twice the price of my Quarks and is heavy/ bulky/uncomfortable and sounds worse (and in fact I will when the Jiu is released) But instead I am being happy with my Quarks and if for whatever reason someone else wants the Lan then good for them.
$13 does not say anything. That is the retail price of the tips because they are a retail product. They do not cost moondrop $13.
no7_ebola OP t1_j96dwdj wrote
I actually don't like my waners. which is why I made this post in the first place since I wanted to get a new iem. not saying it's bad just didn't like it. being cheap is the entire point of chus and other $20 iems. by trying to feel premium you're going to have to sacrifice a lot of things such as utility and longevity.
you buy iems for the sound not the premium feel, I doubt you're gonna notice the metal build while you're wearing it. if you're gonna appreciate an iem appreciate the fact it plays audio well.
my point still stands that lan has no real identity. turning is what defines an iem at the end and lan just isn't all that special to be a real product. revising the chus still makes more sense than an entirely different product that does the same thing.
No_Analysis6187 t1_j97nsri wrote
Actually you WILL notice the metal build. It will give you lots of confidence in wearing it, whether it be using them for commuting or laying on the side with them. A little extra durability and premium feel are always appreciated. Besides, if it address the peakiness on Chu then shouldn't that be big enough of a difference? You really shouldn't be expecting massive difference in anything below $80.
thatcarolguy t1_j96o4vu wrote
The longevity thing is very unfortunate though I have personally not had any problem with my Chus. My only point really is that if the Chus blew their budget on premium feel then of course a version with the same premium feel and added detachable cable is going to cost more.
I don't even like the premium feel. Like I appreciate how it looks and feels but as soon as I pick it up (in any way besides grabing the 2 shells first and being careful to keep them apart which is something I don't want to do because to me a $20 IEM is about convenience, not being fussy) and feel the little heavy weights swinging around and banging together I don't like it compared to how I can just yank my Quarks any which way and throw them around.
But I do notice the metal build while I am wearing it. Yet another reason I prefer the Quarks lol. But if the Chu was what I wanted in sound and feel yet I desired a detachable cable I wouldn't hesitate on the Lan. I don't know who exactly that is for but it is somebody.
What is it that you don't like about Waners? And what is stopping you from trying Quarks? If it is the USB C then I totally understand.
no7_ebola OP t1_j96pmz2 wrote
my issue with my waners was that the emphasis on vocals isn't as strong as I would like. it's overpowered by the instruments and bass. they play instruments EXTREMELY WELL but the vocals just isn't as present as I'd like. I've gotten used to it for the most part.
main reason I don't try the quarks because they just seem like a generic earphone with good tuning? also remember how I got my waners for $14? in my country the price difference isn't significant enough for me to consider it
thatcarolguy t1_j96qy89 wrote
Generic in what way?
no7_ebola OP t1_j96r37z wrote
in the sense it's literally the same as the buds that comes with your phone, random Chinese earphones.
thatcarolguy t1_j96rbxh wrote
So you mean physical shape/construction? That's what makes them so comfortable and convenient. That was a game changer for me. I never want bulky or heavy shells or thick nozzles ever again.
DCharlo t1_j9a9fyl wrote
$20 is like 5 coffees bro, it's fuckin loose change
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