Submitted by Drago-0900 t3_124a1wu in headphones
SupOrSalad t1_jdyxftl wrote
It's just not really needed. With loudspeakers you're working in a different environment and having multiple drivers can be more beneficial. For headphones, the drivers are often small enough and light enough to reproduce all audible frequencies without issue, and they also work in a different type of environment and produce sound pressure differently than loudspeakers in an open air environment. XM4 probably isn't the best example of a headphone for comparison as they're just not tuned all that well
daddyyeslegs t1_jdyznhg wrote
But why is it so prominent in IEMs? It's not like single driver IEMs are bad, far from it, but there's a lot more products out there that use multiple drivers. Is it a lack of innovation in that area, or are there inherent problems with the placement of the drivers in headphones that isn't an issue in IEMs?
I can only really think of imaging being an issue, but there's plenty of headphones with kinda shoddy imaging.
blargh4 t1_jdz1x93 wrote
"moar drivers = moar better" marketing sizzle?
while I'm sure you could make some reasonable case for a 2-way setup to separate high and low frequencies, a lot of the IEM market seems rather over the top, given what you can clearly do with 1DD.
daddyyeslegs t1_jdzb0mi wrote
Bah, I don't care for the half a dozen BA with like 3 DD setups. But the truthear zero does something genuinely interesting with the woofer that I don't think would be completely unreasonable in a headphone. If anything, the benefits of deeper and more impactful bass make more sense with the increased real estate a headphone can rumble your ears with.
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daddyyeslegs t1_jdzarmo wrote
Have you not heard of people hooking up their headphones and having an external subwoofer hooked up as well? It sounds like the people who do that enjoy it. I'm sure it will be jarring, but I don't want to be overly dismissive of something that could genuinely work if properly developed.
And idk, is that idea really any more jarring than Sennheiser imaging being 3 distinct and seperate fields? They're just different flavors of "bad imaging" aren't they? But if it's possible to have a woofer handle the bass, we can get away with some pretty hefty subbass boosts and extension (with impact) without compromising the tuning of the mids and treble.
Do you have the names of the products that tried this before? I can only think of the nuraphone, but I'd love to see what has been tried before.
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daddyyeslegs t1_jdzdvaw wrote
Oh wow, those look horribly tuned. Though i don't know how you can be so confident about the location of the audio being so incredibly jarring when you haven't ever heard a product that does it remotely well... Because it doesn't exist.
The surround sound thing I don't see ever being a good idea until we move beyond stereo, which I don't see happening for a long time.
I guess we will just wait and see if anyone competent dares to experiment with it. I bet if someone pitched the idea of planar magnetics 70 years ago they'd have gotten much the same response. I'm sure you had people saying it must sound awful and be way too difficult to tune then too!
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daddyyeslegs t1_je0fzkf wrote
Ohhhh... You're one of those redditors. You just want to argue and get the last word in. You're not actually interested in discussion.
Sorry man, I'm not interested. You won your argument, congratulations!
Drago-0900 OP t1_jdzbtc7 wrote
While the xm4s I definitely knew they werent going to be audiophile but being beaten out by some budget car speakers should not be a thing. What I was thinking was doing a 2-3 way headphone driver having the frequencies being split to multi drivers made sense to me. As like others have said, a big cone is going to have a hard time doing highs accurately.
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