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EddyB299 OP t1_jcb42yn wrote

I really liked Zeros, Dusks are pretty good, but lacked air. today I saw headphone shows video they said project red is seriously good. The new project red V3.0b graph has reduced Sub and mid bass, and slightly reduced 4k region compared to V2.2. initially project red looked like 7hz zero with better bass The new V3 graph looks like hybrid iem. Looks very similar to dusk. Also Blessing 3 coming out.

What do you guys think? An upgrade over Dusk or something very different?

Edit - I feel like the pricing will be somewhere around $100. Could be 7hz Legato

Edit 2 - Read this article

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thatcarolguy t1_jcbno3e wrote

Based on my experience with comparing Crincacle's graphs vs others vs what I perceive in my own ear I would expect a nasty timbre killing 12k peak just like on the Salnotes Zero. My experience may not be represaentative though as many others do not complain of that.

I don't know anything about the construction of this unit but I'm guessing it has two drivers? It has the hallmarks of a dedicated driver for the bass but only one driver for everything else.

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47ppos t1_jcc39mj wrote

Nah. The 5128 measurements look good. No peaks.

And yes, the Salnotes really had that peak on the 5128 measurements.

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thatcarolguy t1_jcczs70 wrote

I see a peak at 14k. I know from experience comparing Crinacle's measurements to my ears that it will be at 12k and probably much higher in magnitude.

If it peaks after 15k, especially is it is sort of flat at the top instead of sharp like on the Dusk measurement then I just might be ok, and indeed the Dusk one of the only 2 IEMs I have heard that don't give me peaky upper treble.

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Toronto-Will t1_jcbpf0d wrote

Is Crin using his new measurement rig in this graph? I haven’t followed it that closely, I just saw his video unboxing the new gear. May mean the baseline has changed.

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EddyB299 OP t1_jcdho05 wrote

zero still sounds pretty good. I kinda feel like project red is a dusk successor

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llIicit t1_jcbncjt wrote

Where is the pricing?

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EddyB299 OP t1_jcdfy9j wrote

I think it's going to be $350 - $500
Edit - under $100 according to Fc-Construct

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GarrinchaMane t1_jce5lmb wrote

At the headphones.com YouTube video they said, it would be disruptive. But there are already several IEMs at the $350 - $500 being very close to Harman, including the Blessing 2 Dusk and the Variations. So with such a high price I would not see how it could be disruptive.

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EddyB299 OP t1_jcegisd wrote

sorry sorry sorry its under $100 according to Fc-Construct

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Me_MeMaestro t1_jcb8eb7 wrote

I like that it's going the direction of the b2d instead of trying to squeeze into the Khan and zero space, I was not interested in buying it before but I am now, still needs to have a price around those other two

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Not_FrenchBTW t1_jdv4wos wrote

Heard them at canjam singapore, im not too familiar with IEMs and im also sort of new to the hobby so here goes. They are by truthear. they are red in colour and have (from what i can tell) the same case as the Truthear zero, just with a red crystal thing instead of blue. i found them to have more prominent lower bass and more detailed than the zero. IDK what it was but the SAM audio rep there put something on the end of the cable (like a 3.5 to 3.5mm thing???) that they said was 75 ohms or something along those lines. i have no clue what it was but it improved the resolution and clarity all around. spoke to crinacle and he wouldnt give a price or release date. it was kinda dark in the show floor but it looked to be the same 2DD setup as the zero.

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47ppos t1_jcc5uen wrote

They measure really well on the 5128, except for the 1k - 2k region.

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