I don't know what to make of this incoherent rambling but I agree there's no way the SA6 Ultra will be a limited run. It's just marketing hype to push sales.

I don't think it would work like that. Zeos tuned it and he is being compensated with 60$ per piece. I mean i guess it could work if they come to a new agreement.

A lot of us stuff was chosen by zeos in the final package for example he mentioned the graphic design of the box was done by one of his subscribers, He wanted dekoni tips in the box, which it came with.

So dunu would have to revamp a lot of things if doing it with dropped x Z reviews tags.

So I am guessing they would simply make new batches.

The design of the box would be the easiest change, people wouldn't be bothered even if it's a plain box with the name on the front and specs on the back, just drop the Dekoni tips, all other accessories would remain the same. Change the faceplates since the red and blue faceplates are associated with Z Reviews. The point being it should never be made limited regardless of new batches. The tuning is not exclusive, everyone can see the graph and other brands can even copy it. The agreement is drafted to Dunu's advantage, Dunu has the full control of their product, that's how collab works.

Imagine buying something like a limited edition car, sports memorabilia, or anything collectable that has a serial number as proof of how limited it is. You purchase it because of how limited it is because the company has promised that you are in an elite group of people who will be owning whatever it is due to how limited the product is. Then later down the road the company releases more of what you purchased causing your purchase to loose collector value because it is no longer limited. People will loose faith in the company as a whole because they falsely advertised a limited product that they even took time to put a serial number on.

The SA6 Ultra is limited to 300 and each unit has its production number stamped on the side as proof of how limited it is. They wouldn't be able to release another batch without stepping on the toes of those who purchased it as a limited product. Even if they did a different color it would still take away from the uniqueness and collector value because the tuning, packaging, contents of the package, and accessories were all part of what was advertised as the limited production run. If Dunu wanted to maintain how limited the Ultra is they would need to release a product that would be similar but different enough to maintain the collector value of those who purchased it.

I agree with the physical stuff but tuning is something else. Granted i don't know anything about collabs. But zeos is currently being paid via a royalty model. I don't think they would be able to sell the same tuning without compensating him somehow unless it is a one and done deal and zeos has no problems with it or the contracts allow it or something.

Which is why the suggestion is to drop the Z Reviews branding, the regular release of Dunu SA6 Ultra wouldn't have any production number. The analogy comparing it to collectibles only makes sense if it was priced at a premium because the opportunity cost of losing future sales is priced into the premium price, and usually collectibles are not too different from the regular product, meaning collectibles tend to be in a different colour but with similar specs, especially for electronics. Reason is because electronic products had to be updated with better specs as technology advances hence making the updated version a collectible wouldn't be sensible from business perspective. It wouldn't affect Dunu's PR even if they choose to release new batches because there will be more than 300 people who are interested in it and ultimately in business the decisions are taken to satisfy majority of customers. In fact, not continuing the SA6 Ultra would be bad PR and it affects Dunu's revenues which is crucial for their R&D costs.

Agree it's all about the contracts, now that it's sold out perhaps Zeos can tell us about it. But again I believe that the tuning is not exclusive to Zeos because it cannot be copyrighted when literally every brand has access to its graph, that's like trying to sue a competitor because their product sounded similar, if the physical design is similar then there might be a case which is why changing the faceplates while keeping the same tuning would work.

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I don’t think you understand how this kind of thing works. First, the FR graph isn’t what’s being “copyrighted” here, it’s the physical damping/construction/tuning/changes to the drivers/whatever else physical characteristics Zeos worked with them to change that is exclusive to the collab contract with him, not the result of all that work and those changes. Second, it would be an idiotic contract indeed for Zeos to have signed that doesn’t protect all those things from being used ever again without compensating him. They can’t just change a color and say “tee-hee this different product now lolz” and go back to selling it. We don’t know the contents of their contract but even a minimally competent lawyer would’ve made sure there was language in that contract preventing exactly what you’re talking about here.

This is exactly why limited editions work. They hooked you. It is unobtainium so it must be great. I have the og SA6 and it is very good. The ultra may offer some measure of improvement. Dunu I am sure will use the results of this collaboration to develop product in the future. All that said I have earphones I enjoy more that are on both sides of the cost spectrum. My point is don’t pine for a love affair that you cannot have. Find a love that is available to you.

Uhm they're limited editions... And I hope they don't release any more

Which ones do you enjoy more

for less expensive the penon serial is fuller with much better bass but still crisp up top. for more expensive both the Andromeda and Solaris are great for me. used you can get either of those for about the same price as the ultra

OMEGALUL Dunu SA6 Ultra Printer Go Brrr