ku1185 t1_itt5zhs wrote on October 26, 2022 at 2:54 AM

Some people think DACs sound different. Or you might have some issue somewhere somehow.

I didn't think the original AKM E30 sounded harsh (least harsh among K5 Pro AKM, Apple Dongle, El DAC II), but don't know about the E30II.

If you're looking for other options, I think Cayin RU6 is a very attractive option to try R2R. Got NOS option which may help with harshness.

justaalawstudent OP t1_ituy2jd wrote on October 26, 2022 at 2:30 PM

Placebo was the first time that came to mind, but it's incredibly difficult to rule it out without another DAC to compare as any blind test attempt would be screwed up by the fact that the volumes mismatch a lot when switching between E30II and PC connection. I wonder if an E50 from Topping which uses a different, more premium chip compared to the ak4493s on the E30 would sound a lot different? I always imagined they would not, but now I don't know.

ku1185 t1_itvh9o2 wrote on October 26, 2022 at 4:37 PM

Can't really tell you what you're actually hearing and what's placebo, but I'm inclined to suggest that it doesn't really matter. Just find something you enjoy.

AntOk463 t1_ityk8dk wrote on October 27, 2022 at 6:48 AM

Use them straight out of your PC, I know some people will say that's not enough power to drive them, but just do it. I have AKG Q701 which are pretty similar headphones, and they are the best headphones I have tried, the Sundaras have come close but nothing can beat the sound quality of them. Try using them straight out of your PC with no EQ and then adjust the EQ and see if they are still as unpleasant.

justaalawstudent OP t1_itz25bb wrote on October 27, 2022 at 10:56 AM

I solved the problem by using a different measurement to EQ the K702. It's awesome now and I'll keep using the combo as is. Using it from the PC without an amp was the first thing I did and it honestly just sounds plain bad. Quiet, sterile, thin as hell. The amp gives it life.