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GreenNerve OP t1_ir6rrnu wrote
Reply to comment by IMKGI in What the material of Airpods Max's diaphragm? The black color makes it look super cool by GreenNerve
No, I'm not talking about the whole headphone, I'm talking about just the driver itself. The THD is not the dominant factor of the sound quality, but it's really difficult to make a DD to have that much low THD. That's my point, the driver is great, it has lots of potential, given that the aurorus borealis' driver can be purchased with under $20.
IMKGI t1_ir6s8y8 wrote
Your source doesn't compare the THD of the airpod max with other headphone, so i can't say how reliable or good it really is, the only real website i know of which has a whole database of THD measurements is rtings while their reviews are BS, their measurements are still valid, and according to them the THD of the airpods max is about average
GreenNerve OP t1_ir6t518 wrote
$1400 focal clear:
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/focal-clear-review-headphone.18585/
$4000 focal utopia:
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/focal-utopia-review-headphone.22103/
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APM obviously outperforms those 2 in terms of THD
mcjasonb t1_ir6y0l4 wrote
The Clear is still under 1% at 94Db, which is still louder than you should be listening at.
GreenNerve OP t1_ir6ym40 wrote
we are nerds, we care about things we shouldn't care
mcjasonb t1_ir6z0sc wrote
Anything under 1% isn’t a problem. Yea, the APM still somehow pulls off a really good distortion number, but it doesn’t really matter. I have an AirPods Max, and it’s a shame that on IOS there is no way to do a system wide EQ. I’d like them a lot better if there was.
SeeminglyUselessData t1_ir7hn5e wrote
Flawed logic. It can’t even play infrasonic bass at regular volumes without the driver hitting X max and the voice coil jumping the gap— let alone handle a sub bass shelf EQ. It’s a heavily compromised driver
mcjasonb t1_ir7ih3q wrote
What are “regular” volumes? I’ve had an Elex for 2 and a half years and don’t have any such complaints.
SeeminglyUselessData t1_ir7jq2q wrote
It completely depends what music you listen to. I’m talking levels below what most people would consider their maximum. Like 80db. Many Hans Zimmer songs will cause the problem at extremely comfortable levels, when you still want to turn it up higher. “Why so serious” for example
blorg t1_ir91dm0 wrote
I can hear the clipping on the Clear at high volumes if I go specifically looking for it with test tones or very sub-bassy tracks. These aren't crazy volumes but they are well above what I would actually listen at. I actually thought it was broken when I first got it as it clipped on pink noise (which is bass-weighted) at a loud but not extreme volume.
I never however get it in actual listening, an this includes sub-bass heavy tracks and using Oratory's Harman EQ which has +8.6dB in the bass. So while I can certainly understand why it could be an issue, it's not for my listening volumes, on my specific unit.
Focal say they do this deliberately for dynamics, I think the idea is the diaphragm is very free in its movement but has a hard limit for excursion. I can't say, but the Focal Clear does subjectively seem to have great dynamics, great sense of slam.
reticulatedjig t1_ir7lhhj wrote
Ive run into it once with my elex. It was while I was messing with EQ though and didn't adjust the levels to compensate. Hasn't happened again though and I'd say I listen pretty loud unfortunately.
Fullyverified t1_ir6yvdh wrote
Not when you consider that music isn't a wall of sound, but instead very quick transients.
mcjasonb t1_ir6zecj wrote
I still never listen at 94Db or over. Most of my music isn’t all that dynamic though. The loudest parts of music I’m listening to still isn’t over 85Db, probably not even over 80Db.
Fullyverified t1_ir74eo5 wrote
You have no reliable way to measure that.
"Most of my music isn't tall that dynamic"
Yes it is. You realise sinewaves are just quick up down things right? You are underestimating the total volume during those peaks.
mcjasonb t1_ir75mmh wrote
I listen to mostly rock and metal, and most of it isn’t very dynamic. I get what you’re saying but most of the music I listen to definitely doesn’t contain huge swings.
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