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JZKallday t1_it2eink wrote

Hate to be that guy, but 80 dollar IEM's lasting for a year seems okay, they're not moondrops best, if you were having a blessing 2 or variations or s6 fail after a year I would be pissed, but 80 dollars for a year of good listening very frequently seems alright to me, I've found that in this hobby everyone has different life cycles with each product, just be thankful you didn't buy kilobuck IEM ( almost never worth it imo) and have those break after a year. For me I'd feel like I got my money's worth, it functioning for a year does not sound like a QC issue, it's sounds like they broke while you owned them, a qc issue would constitute a problem direct from factory.

(Apparently this is a hot take) moondroop probably makes the arias for like 20 dollars of material cost, they are cheapo products from china dont be surprised when they die .

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TomasJ74 OP t1_it2g109 wrote

I am sorry, but I guess we have different views about quality products.. Every product in EU has atleast a two year warranty, and a good headphone can pretty much last a lifetime. There is no reason for a driver to just die, there is an issue there. This feels like an ultra consumer mindset where people buy the same products frequently and don't care about actual quality (eg.shoes/clothes..)

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JZKallday t1_it2koec wrote

Ehh it's not that I don't care about quality, I just don't expect 80 dollar iems to hold up well over time, I've had plenty of iems and they seem to break after ~2 years even with replaceable cables, I've had the same pair of senhesiers (hd598) for 9 years and they have literally been tossed off my head onto the floor. In general iems are gonna be more fragile, especially under the 100 dollar mark, they use cheaper components, that wear out faster on the low end, I had a pair of bose iems that barely lasted a year around the same price point, it sucks but it's not a qc issue, most companies know their lower tier products are going to die sooner rather than later, that's where all the money saving comes in. If I didn't care about quality I would keep buying cheap iems made of cheaper materials.

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TomasJ74 OP t1_it3huyn wrote

80 dollars is quite the sum for some people. I wouldn't consider myself poor in any way, but still, 80 dollars is not a small amount of money to shell out on a hobby. While you can spread it out into value over time spent using the product, it's still not that cheap. I haven't used it that much, as I said, 200 hours isn't a lot. That's like.. I dunno, 2 months of commuting and office use? 80 dollar headphones usually last/should last (imo) way more than that. My old gaming Logitech headset would still be working now, if not for my dog running through them while I was vacuuming. The drivers would still be intact. I dunno man, think about it. We can't get used to products dying after a year.. Imagine the damn waste that would cause, the unnecessary spending, it's just dumb.

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Andrewskiii t1_it4ebf7 wrote

I’ve had Final Audio e3000’s ($50) that have lasted 4+ years, Blon Bl-03’s ($25) that still going strong 3+ years, Fiio FH1s ($70) still working over 4 years, the only IEM that crapped out on me were my Moondrop Starfields. It’s definitely a QC issue that’s been happening with their filters

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FastGecko5 t1_it8x0sl wrote

My first IEMs were the Shure SE215, they cost me about the same as an Aria. They didn't sound that good compared to what's out there now but they lasted me half a decade of hard use, and still worked perfectly when I sold them. It's absolutely a QC issue, or if you prefer, a TQM issue. Inexpensive IEMs can still be durable, and letting manufacturers think it's okay for IEMs to be "wear items" is only doing a disservice to ourselves as consumers.

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GodlikeCat t1_it2mbij wrote

yes, arias suck in terms of quality, but $80 for a pair of headphones that die in a year is in no way "acceptable"

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Vulcanicloud t1_it36t3z wrote

Man companies must love you. Imagine defending them for making poor products.

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JZKallday t1_it3aryu wrote

you clearly didn't read what I had to say, im not saying i like or support products breakingdown fast, but QC doesn't look for if the product will break down the line, only what's ready to be shipped out, if it works when you send it off the line, then it's good enough. The point is the company doesn't care about you and you already bought it, people are out here setting unrealistic expectations for cheap products from companies that are less than ten years old. on their bottom end consumer line, truth is moondrops high end iems could be 3 years until death off the line, you simply don't know.

All I pointed out is that for average IEM made cheaply they are going to die faster than something else and that the QC process for such a cheap product is making sure they all make sound as the only minimum, if ya'll think that someone should individually analyze every iem they make, well none of you have ever been near a manufacturing floor, that probably doesn't even begin to happen until you hit the high end, such as with every product in life, you want something that's going to last, it is probably not going to be near the bottom end of an untested companies offerings.

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ToXiCRaiN_21 t1_it2f8d7 wrote

I was about the respond to the post with the same thing! I was also going to add that there’s always such a skewed view in how common actual QC issues are since people experiencing those issues will be the ones speaking up about the product, versus those that have no issues to report. Moondrop makes great products and I don’t see anyone refusing to buy or recommend them over their lower cost products having QC complaints.

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