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SteveThePirate_69 t1_iy6nuoc wrote

If a tree falls in 128kbps, does an audiophile even bother listening to it?

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sverek t1_iy6rfiu wrote

A true Audiophile would have backup headphones specifically for such case.

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SteveThePirate_69 t1_iy6t4zv wrote

A true audiophile knows source is king, and until you can get your hands on some import SACD's of quality timber, or if you were lucky enough to see it fall, live, back in 74', you're just listening to a parody of the original record.

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AntOk463 t1_iy8ownz wrote

It is made of wood, so it get some audiophile credit there

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nokkynuk t1_iy9aj29 wrote

More importantly does it even exist? My ears can only hear in MQA /s

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UnnecessaryMovements OP t1_iy6p2lt wrote

EDIT: I FOUND IT!!!
EDIT2: Edited the link

A sadder ending: I can't find it and it seems to be deleted.

I was gonna link it but now it's gone. It's an obscure progressive metal band from the Philippines. IIRC it was made in the early 2000s (maybe 2007).

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CatgirlsAreReal t1_iy6qc7d wrote

always such a shame when that happens :(( same thing happened with this slavic metal album i found years back. everything was in the cyrillic alphabet so impossible for me to search for it elsewhere now.

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Yin_Esra t1_iy6ushk wrote

So I have a somewhat different story - downloaded a song from YouTube about 8 years ago. Stumbled upon it on my phone again a year ago, and tried to find it in better quality. Song, and artist, seems to have been erased from the internet.

Oh well, at least the song is a banger and I have a copy lol.

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cursethrower t1_iy6tjel wrote

Do you have the band’s name? I like digging for stuff like this.

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UnnecessaryMovements OP t1_iy6ynh2 wrote

I found it.

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cursethrower t1_iy70rt6 wrote

Oh, awesome! I was able to find this SoundClick profile with a working stream for that song, as well as 10 other songs they recorded.

Unfortunately it looks like the files uploaded were only 128kbps, but it sounds a little better than the YouTube video to my ears. :)

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jonmcknlegg t1_iy7ixnc wrote

I recently got myself into listening music from the Philippines and encountered the same problem as you of having to settle with 128kbps files. I'm hoping someday those bands will release their albums on streaming services.

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SaintSchultz t1_iyav34x wrote

Hey I know that band! I saw them live recently in San Diego. The guitarist is super talented!

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hurtyewh t1_iy78xtd wrote

This is why I buy everything I care about on CD or at least try to find FLAC to download. I've seen some of my favourite albums being removed from Spotify during the last two years and I expect in a decade my playlists will show mainly gray. A lot wasn't available ever.

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CreamyOrangutan t1_iy6ny37 wrote

i’ve had this issue many times, youtube-dl and other ripping methods have saved me 🙏🏽

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UnnecessaryMovements OP t1_iy6o78u wrote

I don't really have issue with downloading it. I have issue with the compression of YouTube.

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CreamyOrangutan t1_iy6r1dh wrote

Yeah ik, using this method can sometimes get you 192 kbps opus files, which sound and measure fairly decently.

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marystwin t1_iy9kek5 wrote

It's mostly not the compression on youtube, but what happened before it.

Put a FLAC on youtube and it'll sound amazing as opus ~128kb (more or less what youtube uses) is pretty transparent to most. But download some music off youtube with a yt2mp3 converter, remix it into a new MP3, make it a video with AAC audio, upload it to youtube and now we're talking.

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WindHasHobbies t1_iy83sdh wrote

Me with old Vocaloid music, where the highest quality file available in existence is ultra compressed 2011 quality youtube rips.

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lui_is_not_homo t1_iy8qx34 wrote

Its always available for download on some obscure japan only site, and then you will never get the flac beacuse no one cares enough to spend 500 yen on it and release it

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WindHasHobbies t1_iy99v7g wrote

If only I got that lucky, the majority of the links that I find on those japanese sites end up being dead, so even if the song is free it only exists on some japanese guy’s dusty hard drive from 2014.

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Arezz1337 t1_iy8mw81 wrote

Even newer most popular songs are available only as live/cover recordings. Have you had any success in searching any service where it is possible to buy/download FLACs of vocaloids?

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WindHasHobbies t1_iy99hau wrote

No idea what this subreddits rules are on sailing the sea, but I had some luck with a few from a new service I recently downloaded. More niche songs that don’t have a bandcamp release or a self hosted mediafire and are basically just random videos uploaded to NicoNico or YouTube couldn’t be found, but at that point I doubt the song was even produced beyond YouTube-level quality. Also note that most of the songs I’ve been downloading are very old and not QA’d at all, so I don’t have much input on getting new songs.

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Lithominium t1_iy72rl3 wrote

>youtuber takes it down

im CRYING

this was me with Burl's Art on youtube, and his "colored pencil guitar song" video. It was a loop with the bass, strat, and tele. it was wonderful. and its gone...

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DwellerInIce t1_iy896ub wrote

>New song appears on Youtube and nowhere else
>You listen to it in inexpensive gear and love it
>It then comes out in FLAC
>Get your fancy gear and appreciate all the extra details you missed

That's a big win in my books buddy. Not every single session has to be critical listening

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RammityRam t1_iy6v84z wrote

128 kbps? No problem, yt music doubles it so its not bad bad

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UnnecessaryMovements OP t1_iy6y5jb wrote

I don't really have issues with bit rate, I have issue with compression especially if bands upload it with lossy compression already.

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Mr-Zero-Fucks t1_iy91zqt wrote

Small indie bands have shitty production anyways, a higher bitrate won't help much, if the song is good, enjoy it for the artistic merit.

Also support them, they'll invest more in production if the demo does well, I've seen this happening a couple times.

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UnnecessaryMovements OP t1_iy92e8b wrote

Again, I don't have issue with bitrate. I'm fine with 320kbps even 192. I have issues with YouTube compression. As you said, indie bands do not have the best production, but compressing it makes it worse.

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StadiaFan19 t1_iy95ogx wrote

most of my low bitrate songs are unreleased or mixtapes

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hellafax t1_iyb1go1 wrote

This is what its like finding Indie music from the 90's, from labels that were consumed in the great buy-out saga. Bands just simply ceased to exists, and their recordings lost in some sort of limbo.

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TraubeMinzeTABAK t1_iy7ja1z wrote

This Track

https://youtu.be/AeQkKWbyoM4

Is this meme for me.

Ripped from a live set in 2007/2008 in the worst quality possible, but enjoyed it anyways. Still crying that there never will be a HQ Version

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Jochiebochie t1_iy7rp3z wrote

Henry Rollins - Liar. Only on YouTube? Not on Spotify or Tidal. The fuck man!

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jackmeonoff t1_iy89kjl wrote

I one time order a CD from japan just so I could hear the rest of an album I found on youtube lmao. The album doesnt exist anywhere else except as physical CD's.

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Muttywango t1_iy8lng7 wrote

Looks like THWIP was never released after the death of a band member.

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UnnecessaryMovements OP t1_iy8o0rj wrote

It was according to progarchives. I'm guessing it's out of print

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Muttywango t1_iy8r0by wrote

Oh thanks! I also checked https://www.discogs.com/search/?q=THWIP - no result.

Also thank you for the introduction to the music, shame they never made it, he was a talented bass player.

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UnnecessaryMovements OP t1_iy8ro1x wrote

THWIP is not the band, that's the name of the album. The duo was Two Chilekings. And THWIP is their one and only album. Though the bassist was relatively active (RIP)

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Muttywango t1_iy92dil wrote

Yes, but THWIP would show up on discogs. as would Two CHilekings.

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Chance-Concentrate-5 t1_iy8nsey wrote

There’s this one guy I listen to I discovered while random queuing on r6. Talked to the guy, he had a small following but it was notable enough to be impressive. He hasn’t dropped new music in a while and honestly I thought he was dead until I saw he was actively posting on twitter. The only good part about twitter is I can check it occasionally to see if my favorite down to earth musician I met is still alive and finding new inspiration to make music 😂

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AntOk463 t1_iy8pico wrote

Sim Dane makes Formula 1 parodies of popular songs, and his versions sound really good, but he only posts youtube videos and his songs aren't on streaming services. I would love to play his music in a car, but only his earliest songs are available for streaming. You can't even use youtube music because he is recognized as an content creator and not an artist.

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Aracari_LoA t1_iy9buce wrote

There's an obscure album that I have downloaded years ago that for some reason isn't available online anymore. Good thing I have it on multiple devices.

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shairudo t1_iy9chxz wrote

Pierre Antoine. Otherwise a $300 vinyl purchase

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zippyzplayz t1_iybwol8 wrote

You can prolly just go into internet archive and find the artist. And download a listen to a better quality there

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