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NotDavidSchweizer t1_iwauftm wrote

Those are literally opposites. Apple sells you the same phone pretending it's something completely 'new'. Beyerdynamic doesn't give a shit and tells you "Da mein Hurensohn! Nimm dieses perfekte Produkt, natürlich ist es identisch mit dem ersten Modell! Das erste Modell war nämlich schon längst perfekt!"

Edit: German grammar


diollat t1_iwb16h4 wrote

You, my son a bitch! Take this perfect product which is the same as the first model! The first model was perfect!

Been trying to learn German for a while. Did I translate this correctly?


TheDeadBacon t1_iwb1sd7 wrote

Yeah, you got it basically right! You missed a few of the more specific wording used, but that’s honestly OK and not essential for understanding :-)

If you do a 1 to 1 translation you’d probably end up with “Here, my son of a bitch! Take this perfect product, of course it’s identical to the first model! That’s because the first model has been perfect for the longest time!”

Tricky words here being ‘längst’ and ‘nämlich’ because they don’t have a direct english counterpart. Also keep in mind that the original comment isn’t 100% grammatically correct… Hope you learned something :-)


diollat t1_iwb399p wrote

Yeah that last sentence was tricky. I was not able to translate nämlich and längst cause I wasn't familiar with those words. Vielen dank für die Tipps!


BehaveWithClass t1_iwb1syi wrote

I‘d say you‘re close enough. It‘s definitely not word-by-word identical, but content wise you got it right. Keep it up! (And don‘t take this German too seriously cause it is wrong gramatically)


diollat t1_iwb3cak wrote

Nice, close enough is good for me. Danke für die Antwort!


NotDavidSchweizer t1_iwb3sih wrote

Wait help me out, where did I fuck up?


BehaveWithClass t1_iwb4td0 wrote

"Da mein Hurensohn! Nimm diese perfekte Produkt, natürlich ist es identisch an dem ersten Modell! Das erste Modell war nämlich schon längst perfekt!" Should have been: „Da mein Hurensohn! Nimm dieses perfekte Produkt, natürlich ist es identisch mit dem ersten Modell! Das erste Modell war nämlich schon längst perfekt!"

Only two small errors, hope I could be of help :)


coolmanjack t1_iwb7snd wrote

It's not the same phone though. There are consistent, meaningful changes year-over-year within product lines.


spwyll t1_iwb9qve wrote

Depending on your definition of "meaningful."


coolmanjack t1_iwbbb92 wrote

Well yeah but that doesn't invalidate their meaning to at least some users.

To a boomer who barely uses their phone and only uses it for calls when they do use it, there might be no meaningful difference between an iPhone 5 and an iPhone 14 Pro Max, but that doesn't mean the phones aren't hugely different.

Meanwhile, to a tech nerd who constantly uses their phone to its fullest extent, the differences each year in camera quality, battery life, screen quality (notch size, brightness, etc), processing power, miscellaneous new features, etc are certainly meaningful upgrades.

Like sure, the generalized experience for most people from one year to the next ain't gonna be much different, but that doesn't justify calling it the "same phone every year."


8020GroundBeef t1_iwbne0k wrote

Even a total luddite would see a difference between the 14 pro max and the 5. The screen is like 4x bigger by area.

It’s also brighter and refresh rate is noticeable, which most people would pick up on.

I think the big thing here is the concept that everyone upgrades their phone every year. Phone manufacturers make small but consistent changes each year - consecutive models may not be drastically different, but over 3 years they are. If you hardly use your phone, you might wait 4+ years to upgrade. If you use it all the time, maybe 2.


coolmanjack t1_iwbot2q wrote

Well of course they'd see the difference, but that's not the same as the difference being meaningful to them (which, for the aforementioned mega boomer who only makes calls, it might not be). Such a person certainly wouldn't notice the increased refresh rate lol

As for your main point, I'm not sure I see the relevance? The vast majority of people don't upgrade their phone every year, and most who do are enthusiasts who care about the lil differences, or very wealthy people who don't care about the money and just automatically get the newest one when it comes out because why not.


spwyll t1_iwgkz7p wrote

So your example of a "consistent, meaningful change year-over-year within product lines" is to compare two phones that are nine years apart and from two different product lines.

Seems a bit of a reach...


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decadentrebel t1_iwbdcal wrote

Not to mention that Beyerdynamics doesn't change the price drastically while Apple raises it despite taking out plug-in adapters and certain features (3.5mm jack) with incremental (but refined) upgrades. Samsung is guilty of this too recently, tbf.


Modo44 t1_iwc4w95 wrote

Are we ignoring the real improvements in driver technology? That meme makes no sense however you turn it.


AnOldMoth t1_iwd6o10 wrote

Beyers are hardly perfect. DT stands for Death Treble after all.


NotDavidSchweizer t1_iwdn2hk wrote

DT also stands for Deutsche Tradition. Which is quite lovely I think


AnOldMoth t1_iwdsel1 wrote

I know, it was a joke, lol. I was teasing the fact that all of them except the 880 have crazy treble spikes.


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MrWarfaith t1_iwb146x wrote

German. Basically: yeah fuck off, it's been great since the beginning, so we keep making it that way.