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The_D0lph1n t1_iy9xe04 wrote

I enjoyed reading this. The journey to finding out what aspects of sound you value most and which ones are less important is a huge part of the enjoyment of audio in my opinion. It's almost like self-discovery in a way.

I also find the Sundara can have pretty harsh jaw pressure. For me, it's weird because some days it's fine, and I wonder why I ever had problems with it. Then the next day it will make my jaw sore after half an hour.

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Icy_Vegetable1933 t1_iyajf8n wrote

Yes I remember my Sundaras also gave me jaw pressure. Not sure why they did and my future 6XX and Arya's don't since they have egg shaped earpads that come lower, or why my Emu Teaks don't with their circular pads. Weird to hear other people having the same thing. Wonder if a headband replacement would resolve it.

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The_D0lph1n t1_iyamrux wrote

I think it's a combination of shape, size, clamp pressure, pressure distribution, and each person's anatomy. I was wearing my Sundara today and I found that the clamp pressure was actually worst on my cheekbones in front of my ears. The size of the Sundara's earpads places pressure on a part of my cheekbones that I'm sensitive to and thus causes more discomfort.

In contrast, my Shangri-La Jr is vastly more comfortable than the Sundara because the earpad is slightly larger, and hence the clamp pressure is distributed over a larger area, and the areas in contact are different, and those are areas that I am less sensitive to. Also, the SGL Jr has earpad swivel, which the Sundara lacks. This means that the earcup will swivel to more evenly distribute the pressure towards the back of the earpads rather than the front which makes contact with my cheekbones. In that sense, perhaps a headband replacement would work, as it could add the earcup swivel that's missing on the stock headband.

Unfortunately for me, I tend to find many headphones that others find comfortable to be uncomfortable on me. The Philips Fidelio X2HR was reviewed to be very comfortable, but I found it so uncomfortable from both a hotspot and clamp pressure that it made me see stars from wearing it, and I had to return it due to discomfort. The Aeon 2 Closed is also rather uncomfortable and causes weird pressure on my temple, despite not even resting on my temple. Focal headphones in general are incapable of properly distributing downwards weight across the top of my head, and immediately form a hotspot. I guess I have a narrow and pointy head, so many headbands don't have enough curvature to properly distribute weight across my scalp.

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2ndRoundExit t1_iyapdlw wrote

My biggest complaint with the Sundaras was the lack of swivel. My old noires were the most comfortable headphones I've worn though, not sure if the chassis is different than the aeon 2 closed or not

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Opposite_Classroom39 t1_iybim06 wrote

Given sundaras fascinately dodgy track record for build quality, i really wouldnt trust them to put a swivel in at risk of it becoming yet another point of failure. The quality of the internal connections is bad as is.

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2ndRoundExit t1_iybir9l wrote

The Arya headband is fantastic, just wish they used that instead. I even swapped some emu teaks to an Arya headband. Massive upgrade

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Opposite_Classroom39 t1_iybib9f wrote

Dt 770 had severe clamp pressure for me compared to the sundara, the head band barely fit on Bd compared to hifiman which was roomy Pad comfort way & clamp pressure better on sundara but the padding doesnt bounce back much in between uses. I have 62cm head ovoid-ish ( i have to keep track for helmet sizing on motorcycles).

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TheFrator t1_iyb0hoe wrote

+1. Audio is a personal journey and you really just need to try headphones for yourself.

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